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re: Mom is going to a nursing home (Updated pg 7)

Posted on 1/27/25 at 9:42 am to
Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12799 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 9:42 am to
I put my mom in one and she didn't understand why but it was necessary. Necessary but expensive. It's definitely a business where you get what you pay for.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
106103 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 10:17 am to
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I can speak for it way more than you and bluegrass who decided to just give up and let your parents rot in a nursing home



Listen here you mewling fricking quim, I took care of my mother in HOSPICE in my parents home as she laid dying from terminal cancer during COVID lockdowns. I currently help take care of my Grandmother, who by God's grace hasn't needed to be placed in a home because there's enough of us to care for her, her SIL lives two streets over, and she's still mentally sharp enough to manage. You don't have a fricking clue.

OP is in a situation where they are not able to do so. His step-father is likely not physically capable of lifting his wife or doing a lot of the physical care needed. Your situation (excuse me YOUR MOTHER'S situation) was likely not the same. Taking care of someone with dementia is not just "wiping arse" or driving her to appointments, buddy. Not everyone can afford a 16-24 hour nurse to come into the home. Medicare will only cover so much when it comes to in-home care.

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it can and it is called sacrifice. Sorry you dont have the same courage and conviction nor desire to pull off what it takes to care for someone you love



Says the guy trying to get cred for what his mother did.
This post was edited on 1/27/25 at 10:22 am
Posted by Rambler
Coastal Landmass
Member since Jan 2011
1529 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 10:41 am to
I see a lot of experiences in this thread that are familiar to me, but one concern I didn't see was dealing with siblings. If OP has siblings, it's important to try and get all to agree, early on, as to what the course of action should be. In my case, that didn't happen and caused a lot of arguments and bad feelings among brothers and sisters.

Bless you OP; it ain't easy and nothing you do will be the perfect answer.
Posted by BluegrassBelle
RIP Hefty Lefty - 1981-2019
Member since Nov 2010
106103 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 10:55 am to
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I see a lot of experiences in this thread that are familiar to me, but one concern I didn't see was dealing with siblings. If OP has siblings, it's important to try and get all to agree, early on, as to what the course of action should be. In my case, that didn't happen and caused a lot of arguments and bad feelings among brothers and sisters.

Bless you OP; it ain't easy and nothing you do will be the perfect answer.


My Aunt (Mom's SIL) dealt with this. Her sister had Power of Attorney, demanded that her Mother with Lewy Body Dementia not be put in a home, and my Aunt and one of her other sisters ended up taking on her care. My Aunt ruptured a disk in her back from lifting her Mom when she could no longer walk. The sister with POA demanded she receive a G-tube once she lost her faculty to eat and they had to deal with that as well. It was a horrible situation for everyone involved, when she could have received care in a home where one of her own grandchildren worked no less.

Folks judging have no idea how bad it can be. Or how difficult.
Posted by jmon
Loisiana
Member since Oct 2010
9941 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:26 am to
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Gris Gris


Responding to the wrong person.
Posted by Dragula
Laguna Seca
Member since Jun 2020
6496 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:28 am to
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You seem proud of making taxpayers fund your mom's stay in a home. Her assets could've gone to help pay those bills. Now you keep the money and I get to help pay her nursing home bill.


Now do the 11 Million Biden let in...
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 11:33 am to
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Responding to the wrong person.


So sorry! I was obviously responding to DJ3K.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
30889 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 12:50 pm to
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Long term care insurance seems to be running about $2K per year. We aren’t there yet with my relative but it’s always good to be properly prepared.


Two grand is on the low end and may not cover home health care with a long elimination period. Some things to consider when shopping for LTC coverage is it is not rate-stable, so premiums will increase over time. It also doesn't refund premiums if you don't use the benefits and approval for coverage is not guaranteed. Factors beyond health, arthritis or back issues, can lead to denial.

You may want to consider an annuity or permanent life insurance policy combined with LTC coverage instead. These plans have more lenient underwriting, and either you or your heirs can receive a benefits if not used for LTC. Make sure the policy explicitly states it includes LTC coverage, not just "living benefits" or similar terms. Some agents will try and pass that off as LTC.

The best time to look for coverage is in your mid to late 40s. Waiting increases costs and the likelihood of being denied due to unexpected health issues. Hope this helps clear some things up.
Posted by Keltic Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2006
21527 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:31 pm to
Taking care of someone with dementia is not an ABCD issue; it involves thousands of some big issues, some little ones. My MIL would wake up in the middle of the night & go outside, wandering in the yard, close to the street. Twice she tried to open the car door & get out while being driven to eat dinner. My mother, as strong a Christain as anyone with a strong faith, yet there were times that she'd break out cursing like a drunken sailor. We had no clue she even knew some of those words.
Posted by greenbean
USAF Retired - 31 years
Member since Feb 2019
6090 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 2:58 pm to
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She moved into an independent living facility at $2850 a month


Is she able to pay that all out of her monthly income and/or resources? If not, are you guys paying the balance or medicaid/insurance?
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22190 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 3:29 pm to
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My Mom fell Friday night and is here at the hospital in Paducah.


That is deja vu all over again for me. I grew up in Paducah and my Mom passed away last May in a nursing home at the ripe old age of 95. She was pretty healthy up until about 6 months before when she had some internal organ problems that dictated her moving there.

On a good note my Mom fell once or twice and went to Parkview Nursing home for about 6 wk rehab stint. She got out each time and was able to return to her regular lodging at the assisted living facility she was living at.
Posted by jchamil
Member since Nov 2009
18836 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 3:39 pm to
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Yeah I went over as often as I could and helped wipe arse and do specialized excercises, and had the same conversation multiple times per day. Drove her to doctors to give my mother a break when she requested it. I was my mother's back up but she took it upon herself to do what every child should do for their parent.

I saw my mother's sacrifice for her mom and realized I am next one the totem pole. She wont be going to a nursing home bc I am not a lazy and ungrateful child


Taking credit for your mother's good deeds
Posted by dirtsandwich
AL
Member since May 2016
6474 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 3:43 pm to
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you suck

You are a terrible person.
Posted by DieSmilen
My Rubbermaid Desk
Member since Dec 2007
1779 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 4:00 pm to
She has her social security and pension from teaching for 40 years. At this point she doesn’t use the home health part of the complex but we have kind of built that into the budget if needed. We are in the process of selling her home which would give her additional funds if needed. The only thing that is not furnished is electricity but it has ranged from $45-85 bucks since last august. She had week were she didn’t feel like walking to the elevator and they brought her food to her twice a day at no extra charge, a couple of the places I looked at were $5-$10 per meal.
Posted by LaLadyinTx
Cypress, TX
Member since Nov 2018
7120 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 6:12 pm to
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My FIL had in-home hospice care for 9 months until he passed. While it was good for him it was hell for the family to deal with. Hospice only came once a week and the strain on my wife probbly took years off of her life.


Same with my mom taking care of my dad. He was in hospice for 4 months, but they had gone to assisted living for a year before that. It was quickly bringing down my mom's health. I have moved her to a senior apartment near me in Houston and it has taken a whole year for her to truly get back her health. When he passed, she had been taking care of him and not herself and it made her frail. He had dementia.

For the OP and others, I'm sure it's awful and makes you feel bad for them to go to a nursing home, but for most families, there just really isn't another good way. The poster saying everyone is shitty for not taking care of their parent at home is just clueless. Many people do not have the means to hire a full time caregiver and many people have to work to pay bills. There just aren't always a lot of good choices.
Posted by Gus007
TN
Member since Jul 2018
14086 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 6:34 pm to
My wife and I went through that with my Mother in law. We cared for her as long as we could handle it. Then assisted living. Finally a Nursing Home. ,Fortunate to have options.
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
30025 posts
Posted on 1/27/25 at 6:39 pm to
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I actually do know what I m talking about bc i saw my mother take care of her aging Dementia mother. She went over, whenever needed. Slept over as often needed.


It took you one more sentence to prove you don't know what you are talking about. Your GM may have had some limited symptoms of dementia (limited aphasia and limited short term memory loss for example) but she did not have full blown dementia symptoms because you don't "go over whenever needed" or "sleep over as often as needed" because it is 24/7/365. And when I say 24 hours a day I mean it, they will often sundown and spend most or the entire night getting up and doing "stupid" things.

Be glad your GM had limited symptoms because it is impossible for a single person to take care of a dementia patient with advanced symptoms because they can not be awake 24 hours a day and they damn sure can't properly care for them and not live with them. So either your mom was a terrible caregiver and patient advocate or you don't know what you are talking about. I know which one is 1000 times more likely.

Posted by The Ramp
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2004
12799 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 7:58 am to
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brothers


since I'm the youngest, saw my parents the most, lived closest and executor of the will; my brothers had no choice to agree with me. We all get along and are in no dire need for inheritance money. That helps but they failed to see exactly how bad my mother had become. The home completely wiped out our inheritance but it had to be done. She needed a full time nurse for medicine dosage and employees for cooking/cleaning.
Posted by Shorts Guy
BR
Member since Dec 2023
541 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 8:55 am to
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You have no fricking idea what you are talking about, especially with a dementia patient.


This. Some dementia patients CANNOT and SHOULD NOT be living at home. My uncle got to the point where you couldn’t take your eyes off him without him falling in the pool, lighting the house on fire, hitting his head and getting concussed, cutting his face up with a razor, trying to drive off in someone’s car…you name it. He needed to be in a secure memory care environment — for his own safety and that of others.
Posted by DJ3K
Member since Dec 2011
7366 posts
Posted on 1/28/25 at 9:13 am to
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Be glad your GM had limited symptoms because it is impossible for a single person to take care of a dementia patient with advanced symptoms because they can not be awake 24 hours a day and they damn sure can't properly care for them and not live with them.


Once again sir. It can be done and it is called sacrifice. Sorry you dont have the same courage and conviction nor desire to pull off what it takes to care for someone you love

For those people that care for their parents in their time of need, you deserve recognition. You have changed your life in order to help your ailing parents. People out there truly appreciate your sacrifice.

For those that give up and let their loved ones rot in nursing facilities.You suck
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