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Modern medicine has extended human lifespans far beyond their design
Posted on 7/20/19 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 7/20/19 at 5:21 pm
The human body is just like any machine and has a natural functional lifespan. Certainly, with maintenance, a machine can operate for a long time without serious issue but at some point, it reaches its design limits.
More importantly, this is true for the brain. The best computer processor in the world will start to glitch and degrade.
With a few exceptions, modern medicine has extended human lifespans so that either:
1) a faltering brain is housed within a fairly healthy body
Or
2) a sharp brain is housed in a faltering body.
In either instance, people aren't "living" longer, they are EXISTING longer.
Has medical science spent so much time making it possible to do a thing and not thinking about whether they should do that thing?
More importantly, this is true for the brain. The best computer processor in the world will start to glitch and degrade.
With a few exceptions, modern medicine has extended human lifespans so that either:
1) a faltering brain is housed within a fairly healthy body
Or
2) a sharp brain is housed in a faltering body.
In either instance, people aren't "living" longer, they are EXISTING longer.
Has medical science spent so much time making it possible to do a thing and not thinking about whether they should do that thing?
This post was edited on 7/21/19 at 9:07 am
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Posted on 7/20/19 at 5:22 pm to udtiger
Is this about Jurassic Park?
Posted on 7/20/19 at 5:24 pm to udtiger
It’s not about our design limiting us.
It was all the disease and dangerous stuff killing us.
We combat disease now and have safer environments. If we could cure cancer our average lifespans would go up much more.
It was all the disease and dangerous stuff killing us.
We combat disease now and have safer environments. If we could cure cancer our average lifespans would go up much more.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 5:25 pm to udtiger
This post was edited on 7/20/19 at 5:35 pm
Posted on 7/20/19 at 5:25 pm to udtiger
Isn’t Alzheimer’s really just senility?
(With the exception of early onset?)
(With the exception of early onset?)
Posted on 7/20/19 at 5:26 pm to udtiger
Bad diet can kill the brain and body. That's the answer to 90% of the American's health issues.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 5:28 pm to udtiger
Do you even Methuselah?
Posted on 7/20/19 at 5:31 pm to udtiger
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Has medical science spend so much time making it possible to do a thing and not thinking about whether they should do that thing?
Necessity is the mother of invention. Solving human body and brain aging issues will only happen because they become a problem we need to solve. That’s how progress happens. It can be messy but in the end you often end up in a better place.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 5:32 pm to udtiger
That's somewhat true, but most of the increase in life expectancy has been elimination of communicable diseases, better pre and postnatal care for mothers and babies, and the ability to treat serious injuries that would have been universally fatal without modern medicine. If our ancestors survived infancy, didn't die giving birth, and avoided accidents and wars, they stood a reasonable chance of living to.a ripe old age.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 5:55 pm to udtiger
Homo Dues by Yuval Noah Harari
If your interested in this nearly his entire book is about this subject. He says that we have not done anything to extend the life expectancy of human beings. Instead, medicine has provided prevention from premature death. And the question in the next century will be where sentience exists and can science reproduce the human body and either preserve or transfer our sentience.
If your interested in this nearly his entire book is about this subject. He says that we have not done anything to extend the life expectancy of human beings. Instead, medicine has provided prevention from premature death. And the question in the next century will be where sentience exists and can science reproduce the human body and either preserve or transfer our sentience.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 6:24 pm to udtiger
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Has medical science spend so much time making it possible to do a thing and not thinking about whether they should do that thing?
So I went to my PCP last week and with a total cholesterol of 145, he said I needed to get my LDL below 70 (need to switch to Crestor). I'm 77. He said the newest study indicates lowest LDL is better. I'm in my early 60s and I asked sorta frustrated actually; so what's the plan here? Are we shooting for no heart disease so I can end with Alzheimers or Cancer. He was a bit taken aback actually. My 93 yo FIL is in a home with late onset Alzheimers two years after heart valve replacement. He doesn't know much about much anymore. So I agree with the quoted statement.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 8:24 pm to udtiger
We realize y’all have stolen everything from social security. You don’t have to try to convince us to kill our parents.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 8:27 pm to udtiger
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Posted on 7/20/19 at 8:46 pm to Ricardo
Far more people (by percentage) live past their 60s and into their 70s and 80s (and 90s).
Life expectancy in the US in the 1930s was 62, which is why SS retirement age was 65.
Life expectancy in the US in the 1930s was 62, which is why SS retirement age was 65.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:22 pm to udtiger
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Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:23 pm to udtiger
If we had 2019 medicine combined with 1919 eating habits, life expectancy would be much higher than it is right now.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:23 pm to Ricardo
The black man used to live hundreds of years before whitey brought his diseases and stds.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:37 pm to udtiger
This is interesting, but I’m drunk. I’ll check this thread tomorrow.
Posted on 7/20/19 at 9:45 pm to Jim Rockford
quote:This is pretty much the answer.
That's somewhat true, but most of the increase in life expectancy has been elimination of communicable diseases, better pre and postnatal care for mothers and babies, and the ability to treat serious injuries that would have been universally fatal without modern medicine. If our ancestors survived infancy, didn't die giving birth, and avoided accidents and wars, they stood a reasonable chance of living to.a ripe old age.
Modern medicines, medical procedures, transplants and technology have allowed us to diagnose, treat, cure and eradicate many diseases and conditions that were deadly less than a century ago.
I think it’s mostly prevented many millions of early deaths. Hell, people used to die from cuts getting infected. People with hypertension died early from heart attacks before medication to manage it. But many times you will see the mind deteriorate before the body or vice-versa.
This post was edited on 7/20/19 at 9:49 pm
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