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re: Mississippi River Lost 47% Of Its Water In Three Days - November 3rd, 2024

Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:13 pm to
Posted by fightin tigers
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:13 pm to
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I am very skeptical


It is AI written slop
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:14 pm to
You should feel bad for posting this slop

5 months after November 2024 they almost opened the Bonnet Carre Spillway due to high water levels.
Posted by castorinho
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:18 pm to
can't get over the AI stuff
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:22 pm to
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I watched this video a few weeks ago.
Maybe another version.

But this was one released today: Jan 26, 2026
Posted by Flapjacks
Member since Oct 2023
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:35 pm to
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You won't believe number 6!


Using this one weird trick!
Posted by Mr Breeze
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:37 pm to
Polished, robotic voice reading a script without pause, photos out of context like the 1930's era baseball stadium, repetitive use of photos, USCOE hydraulic engineer Chen shown as a caucasian, earth science focused YouTube site established 3 months ago.

Definitely not AI.
Posted by Tarps99
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:42 pm to
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Maybe another version.

But this was one released today: Jan 26, 2026



So this is the version I watched on Jan. 11th.



Complete BS.
Posted by southofyou
Member since Sep 2021
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:44 pm to
It's a good watch. Basically, levees and controlling the river has led the river to shed water through the river bottom.

The video doesn't address data centers, but data centers might jeopardize the drinking water of 8 million people.
Posted by man in the stadium
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:46 pm to
At this point, more mechanical intervention to dredge the sand and silt stuck behind Missouri River dams annually and send it downstream could help mend some of the bed transport and geomorphology issues but it’s like adding a pacemaker versus a healthy heart. The river at this point is like the Borg where it’s more machine than natural and to fix the machine, more machinery is needed short of ripping all the machinery out.

The video doesn’t mention the huge drought part…oversight by the AI that made it, but the general premise of humans having jacked up the entire behavior and ecosystem of the river and the inter dependencies of sediment dynamics, flow, geology, and groundwater response as well as the economic responses and agricultural responses arent wrong.

I remember looking at the St Francisville gage hourly readings during that drought and you could see a faint tidal signal…from the Gulf. There are roughly 260 river miles between that gage and Head of Passes and then another 18 to the mouth of Southwest Pass at the Gulf and the river was only 3-4 ft higher here than at Southwest Pass. Incredibly flat, nearly slack water at that point.
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 9:16 pm
Posted by Faurot fodder
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:46 pm to
Who dat talkin bout those Cairo Pirates, who dat, who dat?
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:50 pm to
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I am very skeptical


We should form an anti-drought group and protest.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
14606 posts
Posted on 1/26/26 at 8:58 pm to
Actually
quote:

You should feel bad for posting this slop
You've responded with a one time (temporal) situation. A normal high water flooding in response to rain.

In response to what's a dire condition decades in the making. And one that ever since being discovered it's been actively responded to by the Army Corp of Engineers by various but always unsuccessful methods. Because the harder they try the more dire they find this condition to be. This is not just a downstream silt deposition issue, but what's happening all along the Mississippi from water projects beginning in Arkansas and Ohio.

More water (your example) in fact exasperates this phenomenon.

The analogy was more water in the river was like a higher level of water in a bath tub, where on exit the flow is increased through the same drain (or opening) only at a higher rate. This increased external ponding to which the corp responded by pumping this water back into the river, to the tune of many millions of dollars a month, only for such external ponding to reoccur again 40 miles downstream.

And it's a local drinking water issue but laugh away.
Posted by awestruck
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:10 pm to
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But I doubt that enough water is leaving the channel to completely empty it.
The claim was made that barge's were being forced to carry less, because river levels were dropping, and as a result grain producers were taking the hit because they still could only get but so much for their produce. Same with coal.

And as a result 3 (I think) barge companies had gone bankrupt.

But I guess you know more than the combined mind trust from LSU, NOAA, the Corp, and a 100 years of documented water data.
Posted by awestruck
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:10 pm to
double post
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 9:11 pm
Posted by awestruck
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:21 pm to
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At this point, more mechanical intervention to dredge the sand and silt stuck behind Missouri River dams annually and send it downstream could help mend some of the bed transport and geomorphology issues but it’s like adding a pacemaker versus a healthy heart. The river at this point is like the Borg where it’s more machine than natural and to fix the machine, more machinery is needed short of ripping all the machinery out.
It's not just siltation.... it's the river bottom is not longer hard. It's become porous because of the siltation and from altering the normal wandering of the river bed. Normally as a river meanders it leaves hardened deposits on the sides, deposition in river bends, and redeposits the heavier eroded materials on the bottom. It's a process of sublimation which makes a hard bottom instead of what's now a more porous silt. It's become a permeable conduct for fluids.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:39 pm to
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I understand why it was done and all the good it did and all that good stuff, but levees and dams really fricked some shite up from a nature/land perspective.


Once you start holding nature back, it’s a continuous battle. You can’t just build structures and say you are done.

But that’s exactly what the USA has done.
Posted by KemoSabe65
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:52 pm to
Barge traffic at Cairo was shut down for a time last due to low water.
Posted by ApisMellifera
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Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 9:54 pm to
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Once you start holding nature back, it’s a continuous battle.


A battle you can only lose. We may delay defeat, but nature will win in the end. The longer we delay, the worse that defeat will be.
Posted by man in the stadium
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:00 pm to
Understood. I was trying to simplify it for the audience here…we obviously can’t get the menders back, at least not in most of LA, but even if we had room for the river we will have the sediment transport problem.

Even with that said, we know from textbooks what the Mississippi should be doing, but we know so little about the bulk, long term sand transport trends and bed aggregation/degradation…even the big synoptic studies like Little and Biedenharn in MR Hydro have massive error bars even with the trend of reduced sand transport.
This post was edited on 1/26/26 at 10:06 pm
Posted by Commanda
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 1/26/26 at 10:51 pm to
And I caught a flounder in Toledo Bend in a Zara Soook.
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