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re: Morganza Spillway may or may not open for a 3rd time -- lack of clear info from ACoE
Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:37 am to Bestbank Tiger
Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:37 am to Bestbank Tiger
Should we expect flooding like this to become more frequent as temperatures continue to rise?
Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:44 am to goldengorilla
Theoretically yes. Higher global temperatures mean more lobes of polar air will dive south in the winters. This could result in more snow in the winter and more rain in warmer climates.
Not saying it will be this bad every year. But more 100-year or even 1000-year flood events could become more frequent.
Not saying it will be this bad every year. But more 100-year or even 1000-year flood events could become more frequent.
Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:48 am to goldengorilla
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Should we expect flooding like this to become more frequent as temperatures continue to rise?
That line of theory has zero to do with this.
Say a guy wants to wrestle a komodo dragon. You dont blame the lighting in the room for that man getting bit. You blame the man for trying to fight a komodo dragon
Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:54 am to PipelineBaw
So warmer air has nothing to do with increased water vapor capacity?
Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:55 am to DustyDinkleman
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Higher global temperatures mean more lobes of polar air will dive south in the winters.
That's actually a subject of debate in climate and weather circles. The same reasons why you might get more SSW and disruptions to the polar vortex also cause other feedbacks to make it less frequent. It's an interesting discussion.
A better reason you'd see more flooding is simply a warmer planet means more water vapor to eventually condense into heavy rain or eventfully freeze into more snow.
Posted on 3/17/19 at 10:56 am to PipelineBaw
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Say a guy wants to wrestle a Komodo dragon.
Runaway analogy train alert.
Posted on 3/17/19 at 11:52 am to TDsngumbo
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Earlier, the Niobrara had been running at 5 or 6 feet of gauge height. After it broke through the dam, it measured nearly 17.5 feet. It wasn’t a gradual increase, either.
“It started a really fast rise,” he said. “There was an 11-foot wave that rolled through.”
And in its wake, three Nebraska counties would learn how that much moving water can become immediately destructive and potentially deadly. How it can cause instant pain and long-term suffering. How it can harm not only those in its path, but those living miles away.
First, the wave swept away a section of U.S. 281, a nearby riverside saloon and at least one home, possibly occupied. And it continued downstream, barreling toward the town of Niobrara — and its mouth at the Missouri River — about 40 miles away.
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Posted on 3/17/19 at 12:32 pm to PipelineBaw
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Say a guy wants to wrestle a komodo dragon.
Posted on 3/17/19 at 12:42 pm to goldengorilla
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Should we expect flooding like this to become more frequent as temperatures continue to rise?
With all the dams and levees now built to control the rivers, each flood event brings more silt and fill into the river basin, thus lowering the capacity of the basin(s).
Consequently less rain and snow is required for a flood event. And in time flood events become more common, basins continue to shrink and a really bad rain event can set record floods even though they'd might not be more water.
Dredging can offset this problem some, but how much of the river system do they dredge?
Posted on 3/17/19 at 2:28 pm to DustyDinkleman
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Higher global temperatures mean more lobes of polar air will dive south in the winters.
Posted on 3/17/19 at 2:32 pm to Redbone
Were under a flood warning till Monday in St.Louis
So Alexa has told me, about 7 times already today.
So Alexa has told me, about 7 times already today.
Posted on 3/17/19 at 3:15 pm to Jim Rockford
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You could argue that the Mississippi is a tributary of the Ohio and not vice versa.
Yea I was always under the impression that water volume dictated which river is the tributary but that’s not the case with the Mississippi and Ohio, anyone know why?
Posted on 3/17/19 at 3:32 pm to Wishnitwas1998
This has more to do with building levees restricting flow through natural basins. Forcing larger amounts of water into a much smaller channel causes the rise in the levels. They are building levees around Lake Ponchatrain restricting access to natural low lying areas to the south and west of the lake. The water coming in the lake will be forced more to the north and east of the lake. This is going to cause areas that wouldn't have flooded in the past, to flood. This will be blamed on global warming, but it is man made disaster built by the corpse of engineers. Build higher levees to protect communities in the northern states is only going to cause higher levels and faster moving water. All man made.
Posted on 3/18/19 at 8:15 pm to rickyh
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I debated starting a new thread about this article, but I'll just leave it here.
I debated starting a new thread about this article, but I'll just leave it here.
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Flooding will continue in waves and varying degrees of severity over the central United States, including a large part of the Mississippi River watershed, through the spring. While high stream and river levels are common during the spring thaw, flooding that occurs is sometimes worse than other years. This year will be one of the bad years for flooding in the Central states. More flooding likely from central Plains to part of Midwest this spring
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As the spring progresses, the surge of water from the central Plains flooding and the snowmelt on the way farther north will work its way southward over the Missouri and Mississippi rivers. One surge of flooding that was initiated by heavy rain over the Tennessee Valley and lower Ohio Valley areas earlier this winter is just now cycling through the lower end of the Mississippi River.
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It is possible that many parts of the Mississippi River will remain above flood stage through the spring and into the first part of the summer in the slow-moving natural disaster.
Posted on 3/18/19 at 8:19 pm to goldengorilla
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Should we expect flooding like this to become more frequent as temperatures continue to rise?
Most of Louisiana is land that has been reclaimed from a swamp or land that lies in a flood plain. So I am going to go out on a limb and say yes.
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