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re: Minimum wage workers cannot afford rent in any U.S. state

Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:47 pm to
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36443 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:47 pm to
We should get rid of minimum wage and “entitlement” programs. Let the market dictate the worker’s worth.
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Posted by Fat and Happy
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2013
19508 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:48 pm to
Minimum wage jobs were not meant to have for a lifetime.

Being a 25 year employee at a minimum wage job is an embarrassment
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88868 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:49 pm to
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Right. Minimum wage jobs are not meant for people to sustain a home.
As we move towards this coddling of anyone younger than 35, yes, yes sustaining a home is exactly what minimum wage should do.

Start looking for other counties to move.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:49 pm to
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they don't like facts dude. just ignore em

You mean, facts such as the reality that almost every job that used to pay minimum wage in the 80s no longer pays minimum wage and less than 1/5th as many people earn min-wage as did then also?

Oh, that's right. You almost certainly haven't formed your own opinion. One was given to you and you likely haven't actually delved into a single iota of the data yourself.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51023 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:51 pm to
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no jobs out there right now. very ugly for ppl. stop the lies


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Mr Perfect


When the virus hit you were losing your shite and screaming to shut it down. Now you’re complaining about the results of the shutdown.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
88868 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:51 pm to
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We should get rid of minimum wage and “entitlement” programs. Let the market dictate the worker’s worth.
Yeah?

And like, let people get by a merit?

We’re done with that.

Being a good at things won’t mean anything in 30 years. Value as we know it will be gone.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:52 pm to
In 2020, if one is an adult making minimum wage, it represents such a colossal failure at life as to be seen as a fricking unicorn.

A borderline retard staring at McDonalds at age 16 ten years ago would be making WELL above minimum wage today. So, if you're 25 or older making minimum wage, how you managed to accomplish such a spectacular feat should be studied and you should be looked at as someone who people can't even believe has managed to stay alive that long.
Posted by Cracker
in a box
Member since Nov 2009
19100 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:52 pm to
I suggest don’t work for minimum wage, get a second job
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:53 pm to
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no jobs out there right now


This isn't even close to true.

Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
14754 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:55 pm to
Anyone that settles for a minimum wage job instead of aquiring the education or skills to move to a higher paying job deserves nothing more. There are infinite paths to self improvemnt that cost nothbng but your time and effort.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:57 pm to
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Anyone that settles for a minimum wage job


The real point here that our lib friends don't get is.........if I wanted to get a min-wage job right now, I wouldn't even fricking know where to look!

I mean seriously. In many places, they basically don't even exist.
Posted by Epic Cajun
Lafayette, LA
Member since Feb 2013
36443 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 7:59 pm to
For real, I have a cousin who is on the autism spectrum and I think he makes $10/hr at Michael’s (craft store).
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27565 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:04 pm to
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You mean, facts such as the reality that almost every job that used to pay minimum wage in the 80s no longer pays minimum wage and less than 1/5th as many people earn min-wage as did then also?


Are you drinking? It seems like you are drinking. Maybe you should watch a movie or something. A lot of good films on Criterion right now.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27565 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:06 pm to
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So, if you're 25 or older making minimum wage, how you managed to accomplish such a spectacular feat should be studied and you should be looked at as someone who people can't even believe has managed to stay alive that long.


Ok, maybe drinking but that is spot on.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:08 pm to
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Are you drinking? It seems like you are drinking. Maybe you should watch a movie or something. A lot of good films on Criterion right now.

Looks to me like someone just got confronted with some factual information he didn't feel comfortable addressing.

Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
27565 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:20 pm to
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Looks to me like someone just got confronted with some factual information he didn't feel comfortable addressing.


Nothing uncomfortable about anything you wrote. I don’t have any data about whether, for example, bussing tables still pays minimum wage, although I would assume it does. That was a minimum wage job I worked in high school, along with cutting grass at the club. I got more money cutting grass in the neighborhood so I only cut grass at the club one afternoon a week and spent most time working for neighbors.

But I haven’t worked minimum wage in so long I had to google what it is. Then I verified that it still has fallen behind inflation.

I know my hourly realization for my work, because I keep up with the value of my time. But, as you aptly observed, if it was anywhere near minimum wage it would be extraordinary.
Posted by Snoop Dawg
Member since Sep 2009
2848 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:46 pm to
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You can get a job in oregon trimming weed for $13.50 an hour and up to 80 hours a week if you want.


Live and trim weed on Washington side of border (no income tax), shop in Oregon or Montana (no sales tax). Winner, winner tofu subsistence!
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78284 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 8:49 pm to
1.7 million people work minimum wage jobs.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:01 pm to
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Nothing uncomfortable about anything you wrote. I don’t have any data about whether, for example, bussing tables still pays minimum wage,
I supplied you data. People make min-wage at 1/5th the rate they did in 1985.

The minimum wage has been pretty much completely overcome by the economy. The entire argument FOR the minimum wage is that you basically HAD to have it or companies would pay worse. But, companies are paying ABOVE minimum wage now for nearly all work that only made minimum wage in the 80s. Yet, you guys haven't learned ANYTHING from that fact.

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But I haven’t worked minimum wage in so long I had to google what it is. Then I verified that it still has fallen behind inflation.

But, this misses the point. FAR FEWER people actually make that wage today. As a percentage, about 80% fewer. Basically, the only people left making minimum wage are teenagers or people who have failed in spectacular fashion. And frankly, most of THEM don't make min wage.

The average Wendy's cashier in Huntsville is now over $9 an hour. That used to be min-wage.

fricking Publix baggers in Huntsville make about $10 an hour.

Seriously, if your goal was to make minimum wage near where I live, you might not figure how to accomplish it.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 7/16/20 at 9:02 pm to
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1.7 million people work minimum wage jobs.

There are 155 million employed people.

Thank you for proving our point
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