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re: Millennial's or Gen Y

Posted on 4/11/20 at 3:46 pm to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 4/11/20 at 3:46 pm to
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Gen Z is the most conservative generation since WW2, sorry you can't accept reality.


Nope. They'll be hard left authoritarians.

We are headed toward a technocracy anyway. Most people will end up living on a govt stipend and doing gig work.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 4/11/20 at 3:50 pm to
My kid is a Zoomer and I highly doubt she'll be a sky screamer but that generation has been indoctrinated by pop culture, education and television more than any.
Posted by Hulkklogan
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 4/11/20 at 3:51 pm to
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Care to explain the raw deal and the bad hand y'all were dealt and the solutions that you millenials will put into place?


First, keep in mind that I'm speaking in generalities. There are always outliers and anomalies to point to.

Issues -
1) Economic policies over the last 40 years have stripped the middle class bare.

2) A single middle class wage can't
hardly buy a house of any kind and can't raise a family.

3) Boomers insisted on their children going to college, tuition prices have skyrocketed forcing any average person who wants to attend college to take on massive student loan debt. Our national debt is insane and growing at an incredible pace.

4) Climate change science is still actively denied to this day and neither government nor the bulk of large corporations are doing much of anything.

5) Boomers coddled our generation and many of us feel like the world was ours if only we do what they say: go to college and work hard, yet social policies like participation trophies and scoreless games taught our generation that nobody truly loses. Millennials where wholly unprepared for the early bitch slap that is called life in your 20s.



Solutions? frick if I know, I'm not a politician or a genius. But here's some general ideas:

For starters, work on building back up our middle class. The middle class should be the backbone of our society.

In a similar vein, make vocational/technical schools tuition free and promote them heavily - skilled laborers like plumbers and Carpenters are going to be the last to be directly affected by the upcoming wave of automation.
Posted by fallguy_1978
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Member since Feb 2018
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Posted on 4/11/20 at 3:56 pm to
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2) A single middle class wage can't
hardly buy a house of any kind and can't raise a family.

You could absolutely live like your grandparents did on 45k per year. 1200 sq ft house, one car and essentially no luxuries.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 3:59 pm to
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have stripped the middle class bare.


It's a shifting, ambiguous term, and it's alive and well.

The entrenchment of the underclasses (single mothers, lowly educated immigrants, dependency on welfare) have done more to curb mobility than anything.

I'm solidly middle class and very comfortable, even in a very expensive location. The average middle class family lives a pretty easy lifestyle.

Housing is the biggest struggle but borrowing money is virtually free and the down payment requirements for many are ridiculously low.
This post was edited on 4/11/20 at 4:01 pm
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 3:59 pm to
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I was born in 1960 


Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61606 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 3:59 pm to
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We have therefore imported a mass amount of people with questionable IQs.
these people, and their ilk, have much higher birthrates than the respectable, decent people.

quote:

Health has improved. Until about a two months ago we had the ability to sustain the most decrepit and sickly of our population in ways that were unimaginable.

right. i meant more along the lines of 70% of the population being overweight or obese and everything that comes with that.

boomers and older allowed huge #s of legal and illegal third world immigrants for the lower wages and/or to be PC without considering the consequences. then expanded the welfare system so the underclass could grow even more.

but hey, they got a lawn guy for $40/week and remodeled their bathroom for half the price. i hope it was worth texas going blue.
Posted by SEClint
New Orleans, LA/Portland, OR
Member since Nov 2006
49487 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 4:00 pm to
I think the current generation of kids being born will be tougher than kids born in the 90s and 00s
Posted by OleWar
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/11/20 at 4:02 pm to
Generations are not about liberal vs conservative. What Generation Theory proposes is that many are raised similarly, and because of their experiences go through life in similar ways.

Think of political leaders. Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump Newt Gingrich, and George W. Bush are all Boomers. What do they share in common.

According to the theory they were indulged as children, narcissistic as young adults, moralistic in midlife, and wise as they enter adulthood.

If the theory holds true, Generation Z will be suffocated in childhood, sensitive as young adults, indecisive in midlife, and empathic in elder-hood.

LINK
This post was edited on 4/11/20 at 4:05 pm
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53839 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 4:03 pm to
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Think of political leaders. Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump Newt Gingrich, and George W. Bush are all Boomers. What do they share in common

Obama is a boomer too
Posted by OleWar
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Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 4/11/20 at 4:07 pm to
Obama was born on the cusp between Boomer and Generation X just like our hypothetical boomer born in 1960. I think this was one of the reasons he was hard to read and appealed across generations.

A boomer at Obama's age would have been moralistic an Gen X pragmatic, Obama was a combination of these things.
This post was edited on 4/11/20 at 4:11 pm
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61606 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 4:08 pm to
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Think of political leaders. Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump Newt Gingrich, and George W. Bush are all Boomers. What do they share in common.

According to the theory they were indulged as children, narcissistic as young adults, moralistic in midlife, and wise as they enter adulthood.
spot on IMO. Obama too.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53839 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 4:10 pm to
Meh, he was a Boomer by several years according to Pew research and Newt was the silent generation. Not that there is some magical transformation in a person over a 4-5 year birth range.

This post was edited on 4/11/20 at 4:13 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 4:31 pm to
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Meh, he was a Boomer by several years



It's a weird timeline. People born from 60-65 have way more in common with gen X than boomers.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53839 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 4:36 pm to
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It's a weird timeline. People born from 60-65 have way more in common with gen X than boomers.

I think most people born near the beginning or end of a generation probably have some characteristics of both.

The concept of generations is interesting to discuss but someone born in 1976 probably had a far more similar experience to someone born in 1982 than the 1982 kid had with someone born in 1995. 82 & 95 are lumped together though and 76 and 82 are separated.
Posted by littleavery1948
Member since Oct 2014
6479 posts
Posted on 4/11/20 at 4:40 pm to
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Well nobody can argue with the moving of manufacturing to an enemy country. That shite was dumb and greedy. But it takes 2 to tango and people buy that cheap shite.
That said the people that made those decisions to move it are a very small percentage of the population



As a Finance person, I graduated just in time for the economic recession. I got a job (paid 60K), then was laid off, and could not find jobs due to lack of experience. I had to start at Target and work up (with an MBA). I worked contracts; I worked in a call-center; I did everything I could. I make very good money now (controller for large business/assistant CFO), so I'm ok, but jobs weren't exactly hanging on trees.
Posted by geauxengineering
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2015
271 posts
Posted on 4/21/20 at 10:27 pm to
the excluding of student loans from bankruptcy signed by Clinton did in the students. It allowed for excessive loans which caused tuition costs to increase because of the excess money. No bank in there right mind would loan someone hundreds of thousands of dollars for worthless degrees. The salaries would not be able to cover the costs, but since the loans cant be discharged in bankruptcy, then the banks lent money without risk.
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