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re: Millennials aren’t having enough babies to keep up with generation before them

Posted on 11/20/17 at 9:53 pm to
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61614 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 9:53 pm to
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now we're getting into selective breeding

good. we were onto something in the 1920s.

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The effects of over-population are quite catastrophic.

america isn't even close to over population.
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 9:56 pm
Posted by NYNolaguy1
Member since May 2011
21849 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 9:54 pm to
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What are you talking about? They already DID do this?


Perhaps I should have said the results of the experiment are coming in soon and it wont be pretty?
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 9:54 pm to
i mean is this a bad thing?

breeding to overpopulate the world shouldnt be a contest
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 9:57 pm to
It's very obvious what the problem is in this country, but you aren't allowed to talk about it. You aren't allowed to notice it. You just have to take it on the chin. A burden, you might say.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64717 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 9:58 pm to
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Perhaps I should have said the results of the experiment are coming in soon and it wont be pretty?


There were a lot of baby girls thrown out, but some Chinese instead of throwing out their baby girls hid them from the government. As a result, a lot of Chinese females popped up on the government radar through marriage. The Chinese ended up with a lot of unmarried men, and are putting them into military service...naturally thats what you would do with so many men. Its whats given their military a bit of clout over the last decade.
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
67021 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 9:59 pm to
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The cost of living has increased so dramatically that starting a family has to be a carefully planned situation.

Gone are the days of the Dad being able to work a standard 9-5 and have a stay at home wife.

That was gone years ago. I'd say by the 1980's that was over. However, we have created a new standard of living.

Houses in the 1960's -70s averaged around 1800 sq. feet. Nowadays, the average is probably 2500 sq. ft. That costs more money. monthly bills then were what? power, water, home phone, gas bill? now we have cable , cell phone with data, water, gas etc. That cost is through the roof.
Cars today are 10-20x cost as 1970's. But they have waay more features, etc.
Further, today few compaines have pensions for their employees ( except lazy government workers), so now you have to take out a % for a 401k.
Bottomline just a lot more overhead nowadays that requires 2 income household .
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61614 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 9:59 pm to
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i mean is this a bad thing?

yes, it is a bad thing. a major change in demographics/birth rate is almost always bad. populations need to increase.

japan's fertility crisis
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28651 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:00 pm to
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america isn't even close to over population.


With population growing exponentially, yea we really are. We've tripled our pop in the last 100 years. That'll probably 4x or 5x the next 100 years. That could be around 1.5 Billion people in America in 100 years.

You don't wait until your waist high in shite before you start taking corrective measures.
Posted by THRILLHO
Old Metairie near Cleary
Member since Apr 2006
50506 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:00 pm to
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China will about to undergo this experiment. Its not going to be pretty.



China has been relaxing their restrictions on the number of children people are allowed to have. Economic development has naturally lead to fewer children without the laws.
Posted by el Gaucho
He/They
Member since Dec 2010
60201 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:00 pm to
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That was gone years ago. I'd say by the 1980's that was over. However, we have created a new standard of living.

Houses in the 1960's -70s averaged around 1800 sq. feet. Nowadays, the average is probably 2500 sq. ft. That costs more money. monthly bills then were what? power, water, home phone, gas bill? now we have cable , cell phone with data, water, gas etc. That cost is through the roof.
Cars today are 10-20x cost as 1970's. But they have waay more features, etc.
Further, today few compaines have pensions for their employees ( except lazy government workers), so now you have to take out a % for a 401k.
Bottomline just a lot more overhead nowadays that requires 2 income household .

I agree. It's good that the government subsidizes some households so that we can keep the birthrate above replacement rate :)
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28651 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:02 pm to
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yes, it is a bad thing. a major change in demographics/birth rate is almost always bad. populations need to increase.

japan's fertility crisis





While those are serious issues, its not even on par with mass starvation/disease/war over resources/etc.

You cannot just keep growing our populations indefinitely unless we can start moving to other planets.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28651 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:04 pm to
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I agree. It's good that the government subsidizes some households so that we can keep the birthrate above replacement rate :)


The issue is they're subsidizing some of the worst households.

We don't need more people, we need more law abiding tax payers.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19461 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:04 pm to
Can't afford to have kids when the cost of everything is rising and your employer doesn't want to pay worth a damn.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:04 pm to
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a major change in demographics/birth rate is almost always bad.


except that we are increasing at an alarming rate

the solution is never lets outbreed the previous generation
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
64717 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:06 pm to
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except that we are increasing at an alarming rate

the solution is never lets outbreed the previous generation


We are not at replacement level. Its not a slowing of increasing breeding, its a backwards movement.
Posted by GreatLakesTiger24
Member since May 2012
61614 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:08 pm to
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except that we are increasing at an alarming rate

what is increasing

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the solution is never lets outbreed the previous generation

we don't need to outbreed them, we need to replace deaths with births
This post was edited on 11/20/17 at 10:08 pm
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
28651 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:11 pm to
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what is increasing


Global pop.

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we don't need to outbreed them, we need to replace deaths with births


Agreed, our birth rates need to be higher and other groups birth rates need to be lower.
Posted by TigersHuskers
Nebraska
Member since Oct 2014
15523 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:13 pm to
this is why America will look like Europe in 20 years.
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:13 pm to
The generation before millennials is Generation X.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
90567 posts
Posted on 11/20/17 at 10:16 pm to
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what is increasing



it means the numbers are rising

at the rate we are going, the rest of the world will be very dependent on U.S. agriculture. that means more factory farming and more usage of our land. meanwhile, our population is getting larger and land is at a premium

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we don't need to outbreed them, we need to replace deaths with births


for what? a slow down of breeding wont hurt. what do we need more bodies for?
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