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Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:19 am to LNCHBOX
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So the manslaughter charge fits even better then. That was fun.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:20 am to Salmon
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its the same charge
It's not, but OK. I love when you start getting condescending when you clearly don't know what you're talking about.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:20 am to Salmon
quote:What level is killing the innocent person you asked to come to your house in that exact scenario?
there are levels of irresponsibility
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:20 am to MoarKilometers
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Amazing how quickly he was charged vs the dallas cop lady who entered the upstairs neighbor's apartment.
Police are the politicians right arm. They will always side with them. Always. Then they can use them to cover up their own crimes in the future for having their back.
He needs an excellent lawyer to help him here and even then he needs to realize he will have an X on his back from here on out for "killing" one of their own.
Sad case indeed. Police over reach is unruly and ridiculous.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:21 am to LNCHBOX
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It's not, but OK
explain the differences
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:21 am to Moarbenchespeaze
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Police over reach is unruly and ridiculous.
What the frick does this have to do with this story?
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:21 am to Salmon
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explain the differences
They are different charges in TX. IS your google broken?
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:22 am to Salmon
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If you can prove he knew it was the cops, I agree
Oh, bullshite. He signed a contract with an alarm company that states it will notify the local police when an alarm activates. Then he received a phone call from the alarm company to verify the alarm and failed to give proper code. Failing that, his alarm panel had either an audible or visual signal it activated (or both). Then the cops gave verbal warnings coupled with the flashlights.
"But, but, he was a sound sleeper and didn't hear the alarm or his phone!" He should have thought about that before he contracted for a service that obligates the police to come to his residence.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:23 am to Salmon
quote:Doesn't saying they're the same ONLY apply to involuntary manslaughter?
explain the differences
Which is irrelevant here, because this would be voluntary, correct?
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:23 am to shel311
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What level is killing the innocent person you asked to come to your house in that exact scenario?
like I said earlier
I'm giving the property owner the benefit when it comes to protecting their property
and like has been repeated several times now, we don't know all the information, so all this back and forth seems pointless
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:30 am to shel311
quote:Y’all keep saying this, but did this individual specifically ask the police to enter his home?
What level is killing the innocent person you asked to come to your house in that exact scenario?
By using the term “ask”, you are implying there is a choice.
There is no choice.
We are not afforded the option of not permitting them entrance if they want to enter.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:31 am to Scruffy
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but did this individual specifically ask the police to enter his home?
Now this is a semantics argument
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We are not afforded the option of not permitting them entrance if they want to enter.
Wut?
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:33 am to LNCHBOX
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Now this is a semantics argument
well these are the types of arguments that are going to be the difference in this case
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:34 am to Salmon
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well these are the types of arguments that are going to be the difference in this case
It appears the police were called to the correct address. It appears they did a walk around and only entered after finding a door open. Scruffy's argument quickly evaporates at that point.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:38 am to Scruffy
Y’all keep saying this, but did this individual specifically ask the police to enter his home?
Are you stupid? The moment he contracted with the alarm company that stipulates it will contact the police he "asked" Midland PD to respond.
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By using the term “ask”, you are implying there is a choice.
There is no choice.
We are not afforded the option of not permitting them entrance if they want to enter.
Are you stupid? The moment he contracted with the alarm company that stipulates it will contact the police he "asked" Midland PD to respond.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:39 am to Scruffy
quote:It has to do with the person having the alarm and enabling the alarm, which essentially means he has signed forms about that process, and he knows cops will come when that alarm goes off.
Y’all keep saying this, but did this individual specifically ask the police to enter his home?
By using the term “ask”, you are implying there is a choice.
There is no choice.
We are not afforded the option of not permitting them entrance if they want to enter.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:39 am to MoarKilometers
It seems that there are a large percentage of OT'ers who don't want the police to respond to calls for service at residential addresses. I can only imagine those same posters outrage if the police pulled up to the curb, didn't see anything and drove off. Only to find out the family was being murdered and raped inside while the police drove away.
Then it would be "fricking lazy cops didn't even bother to get out of their cars, fatasses!!!" It is a fact that, for many posters here, there is no way for the police to win.
Then it would be "fricking lazy cops didn't even bother to get out of their cars, fatasses!!!" It is a fact that, for many posters here, there is no way for the police to win.
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:41 am to LNCHBOX
quote:Not really.
Now this is a semantics argument
Y’all keep saying that we “ask” them to enter our homes.
If you aren’t afforded a choice, you aren’t asking.
Using the word “ask” frames the situation as if he is automatically at fault due to some previous agreement.
You are doing the opposite of those who automatically lay the blame on cops by shifting the burden onto the homeowner.
Just Scruffy’s opinion.
quote:Can Scruffy opt out of allowing police the ability to enter his home under all circumstances?
Wut?
Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:42 am to Scruffy
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Can Scruffy opt out of allowing police the ability to enter his home under all circumstances?
unfortunately, no
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