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re: Midland (TX) Police Officer killed by man who thought his home was being burglarized

Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:46 am to
Posted by 777Tiger
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:46 am to
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. I feel for the spot he was in, but I just don't think that's JUST a horrible accident that we can all just gloss over and move on from.

there's a Dallas cop that entered the wrong apartment after getting off work and killing the occupant, haven't heard a lot about that since it happened
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:47 am to
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That's not a get out of jail free card IMO.



like I said, I'll side with the property owner in these situations

unless you can prove malicious intent, I don't see a reason to charge
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:47 am to
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there's a Dallas cop that entered the wrong apartment after getting off work and killing the occupant, haven't heard a lot about that since it happened



Even if nothing else came form that case, does that makes this case justified?

Fun fact, she was indicted for murder.
Posted by Scruffy
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:48 am to
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there's a Dallas cop that entered the wrong apartment after getting off work and killing the occupant, haven't heard a lot about that since it happened
She is facing jail time.

There was also a couple who were shot after cops served a warrant on the wrong house recently.

Scruffy thinks it was in Houston.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:48 am to
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like I said, I'll side with the property owner in these situations

unless you can prove malicious intent, I don't see a reason to charge


Well we're just going to disagree there. I don't think you should be able to shoot the very people you paid to have sent out to your house.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:48 am to
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there's a Dallas cop that entered the wrong apartment after getting off work and killing the occupant, haven't heard a lot about that since it happened

She's in jail for murder.
Posted by SoFla Tideroller
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:51 am to
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When the officers arrived, they walked around the home and reportedly found nothing out of the ordinary until they noticed that the front door was open. Heidelberg notified dispatch about the door.


I wonder if unknownknight and the other morons in this thread will be back here to backtrack? Or will the maintain their "frick the cops" attitude to try to gain e-cred cool points?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:51 am to
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I don't think you should be able to shoot the very people you paid to have sent out to your house.


If you can prove he knew it was the cops, I agree



Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:52 am to
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If you can prove he knew it was the cops, I agree


If they identified themselves as the story claims, and he shot anyway, I'm sorry I just don't think he should get away with that.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:53 am to
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I wonder if unknownknight and the other morons in this thread will be back here to backtrack? Or will the maintain their "frick the cops" attitude to try to gain e-cred cool points?



no way unknown is coming back to this thread
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:53 am to
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If they identified themselves as the story claims, and he shot anyway, I'm sorry I just don't think he should get away with that.


depending on the size of the house and where he was, he might have just heard yelling/talking

Posted by shel311
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:55 am to
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If you can prove he knew it was the cops, I agree
Obviously


I get the panic, I get all of that. It just does not seem responsible to shoot without identifying when you know cops are responding to the alarm that you signed up for to have them come to your house in that very scenario.
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:56 am to
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depending on the size of the house and where he was, he might have just heard yelling/talking



Then don't shoot if you're not certain what you're shooting at. Gun ownership 101.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:56 am to
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It just does not seem responsible to shoot without identifying


in no way is it responsible

never argued otherwise
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:57 am to
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in no way is it responsible

never argued otherwise


So you admit it's irresponsible, but don't think killing someone in that fashion is a crime? That's pretty contradictory.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:58 am to
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So you admit it's irresponsible, but don't think killing someone in that fashion is a crime? That's pretty contradictory.


most accidents are caused by someone being irresponsible

not all accidents are crimes
This post was edited on 3/7/19 at 9:59 am
Posted by LNCHBOX
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:59 am to
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most accidents are caused by someone be irresponsible

not all accidents are crimes



This wasn't an accident. The guy decided to shoot a gun at someone.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 9:59 am to
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in no way is it responsible

never argued otherwise
Like the other poster said above, we probably agree to disagree at this point.

I get the tough spot he's in, but if you concede he's shooting a gun in an irresponsible manner, and that results in an innocent person's death, it's hard to understand how you don't think a charge should be filed there.
Posted by Areddishfish
The Wild West
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:00 am to
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Cop or not, you realize you can’t just shoot someone in your home right?


I want to introduce you to Mr. Castle Doctrine.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 3/7/19 at 10:00 am to
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This wasn't an accident. The guy decided to shoot a gun at someone.


what, exactly, do you think the charge should be here?

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