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Mental health treatment in America
Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:19 pm
Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:19 pm
It sucks. Absolutely blows donkey balls. Can't get in to see someone for observation. Meanwhile my grilfriend's father is losing his mind, wondering off, delusional, and paranoid. Won't take his medicine. Can't get him admitted unless he tries to kill someone or harm himself and need evidence of this before a hospital will admit him.
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Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:22 pm to yatesdog38
The lack of mental health care, stigmas, and blatant turning a blind eye to it is a root cause of a majority of our problems
Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:25 pm to yatesdog38
Would he be better if he took his meds?
Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:25 pm to yatesdog38
Can you take him to the Er and they can pec him?? Good luck man.
Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:26 pm to yatesdog38
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my grilfriend's father
run, run man, run
Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:27 pm to AUCE05
Not sure. They gave him something at a behavioral health place today but I think it is just a sedative. We've finally managed to get someone to take him in voluntarily after calling the police crisis people and them calling someone. It's been a 4 hour ordeal. The ambulance never showed up.
It's scary AF because how quick things can escalate. I had a HS friend go through this a few years back. Absurdly frustrating.
It's scary AF because how quick things can escalate. I had a HS friend go through this a few years back. Absurdly frustrating.
Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:28 pm to tiger91
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Can you take him to the Er and they can pec him?
Has to be obvious danger to himself. Can’t hold people against their will just because they’re “crazy”.
Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:28 pm to yatesdog38
Unfortunately, one negative effect of HIPPa is the inability for the family to help support an adult family member with mental illness. My mother has worked hard to get my sister back to a stable situation. Her support groups with NAMI have helped and they also provide some resources to those in need.
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NAMI.org
LINK
NAMI.org
Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:31 pm to yatesdog38
Couple this with the fact that we are dumping these people, who need legitimate professional help, into county and local jails where their care is entrusted to people who are overworked, underpaid, and poorly trained to deal with people with mental health issues, and you have a sad, sad situation.
This country is going in the wrong direction when it comes to providing adequate care for people struggling with mental health issues. Hell, even those who are well off and can afford care don't have many options. We've been going downhill for years and years, and there is really no excuse.
This country is going in the wrong direction when it comes to providing adequate care for people struggling with mental health issues. Hell, even those who are well off and can afford care don't have many options. We've been going downhill for years and years, and there is really no excuse.
Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:31 pm to yatesdog38
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Can't get him admitted unless he tries to kill someone or harm himself and need evidence of this before a hospital will admit him.
In fairness, to be allowed to admit someone to a facility against their will should require a bit of a heightened standard. I can easily see a lot of children/grandchildren abusing This to use mom/dad or grandparents’ home and money while they are institutionalized.
Not suggesting that is the case here, but it’s not hard to imagine scenarios why there should be at least some heightened standard.
This post was edited on 12/29/20 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:37 pm to yatesdog38
We have less beds per capita now than in the 1950s, despite having 150 or so million people. The system we have now is worse for everyone involved, and existentially makes the caretaker role an unpaid position filled by a family member, though some states do help pay for an in-home caretaker.
Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:40 pm to LegendInMyMind
Mental health is decades behind other fields of medicine in understanding what works, what doesn't work, and why. Some people get better on one medication and not another. Some get better on their own. Some never get better at all. It's like if you had a staph infection and they gave you an antibiotic that works half the time and the other half doesn't work or may even make you worse.
Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:40 pm to go ta hell ole miss
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In fairness, to be allowed to admit someone to a facility against their will should require a bit of a heightened standard. I can easily see a lot of children/grandchildren abusing This to use mom/dad or grandparents home and money while they are institutionalized.
I can see this point of view, but when someone is diagnosed bipolar or schizophrenic and they refuse treatment they are causing more harm to themselves and society at large. It is a difficult balance but if your loved one is deteriorating before your eyes and you can’t help , more than one person is affected.
Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:42 pm to crazy4lsu
Read the book Crazy to get good insight into the struggles of someone that loves a mentally ill person and the hurdles they have to go through to get treatment to them.
It addresses a lot of interesting aspects, including what Legend said above about these poor souls getting dumped into the prison system.
It addresses a lot of interesting aspects, including what Legend said above about these poor souls getting dumped into the prison system.
Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:47 pm to Jim Rockford
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Some never get better at all.
Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:54 pm to supadave3
I know firsthand. I worked in a prison for a bit and then as in a hospital for around a half-decade before medical school. I also volunteered with a group that helped unpaid family caretakers, and with various autism support groups. There are some genuine horror stories getting appropriate care.
Posted on 12/29/20 at 8:57 pm to yatesdog38
I’ve had a lot of mental health issues but have always wanted help and it’s much easier that way. Can’t speak for people who don’t want it.
Posted on 12/29/20 at 9:00 pm to yatesdog38
Over the past 50 years or so, SCOTUS decisions have made it harder to involuntarily hold mental ill people for more than a short period of time. Unfortunately there are many that will never be able to integrated into society, we will never be able to afford first class mental health care at taxpayer expense to all. Some will have to be warehoused - and it is hard to do that under today's laws.
Posted on 12/29/20 at 9:07 pm to LoneStar23
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The lack of mental health care, stigmas, and blatant turning a blind eye to it is a root cause of a majority of our problems
And so many also don’t seem to care about what all of the restrictions during COVID have done to mental health. I’m not being a COVID denier or anything when I say that, but however good or bad a person thinks the restrictions are, they also have massive negative impacts for mental health for many people.
This post was edited on 12/29/20 at 9:12 pm
Posted on 12/29/20 at 9:20 pm to yatesdog38
Untreated mental health is a bigger problem in this nation than drug addiction. Many of our drug addicts are actually self medicating mental health problems,
It’s a national epidemic.
It’s a national epidemic.
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