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re: Mental health clinicians will start answering some 911 calls in Chicago — instead of cops
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:11 pm to The Spleen
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:11 pm to The Spleen
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I'm sure the dispatchers will receive training on when to send mental health clinicians with and without police
Hopefully that works. Unfortunately, situations with mentally ill people can turn bad very quickly. Might as well send an officer with them on all calls like this.
I'm also wondering where they will get the funding for this?
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Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:12 pm to NoSaint
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Officer and CIT would both respond to the call of a mental health situation with a weapon. Officer would take the lead with support from CIT while there is a safety risk, once stabilized the CIT can transition the person into custody and care
That works perfectly only when you know a weapon is involved. That is quite often not the case.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:16 pm to RLDSC FAN
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The “alternative response” programs are being launched amid continuing debate over the role of police after the killing of George Floyd by a Minneapolis police officer last spring.
This wasn't related to mental health, but it's nice to continuously down play this and make a thug a victim.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:18 pm to RLDSC FAN
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The “alternative response” programs are being launched amid continuing debate over the role of police after the killing of George Floyd by a Minneapolis police officer
George Floyd was a criminal smack addict that overdosed on a fentanyl cocktail.
How exactly would a crisis counselor have saved his life?
I guess he would’ve just watched him die in the street instead of trying to detain him which would’ve been better for us as a whole. So that’s good news.
That, or Floyd would’ve kill him in a drug rage and then OD’d. He was a violent criminal on drugs afterall.
This post was edited on 7/15/21 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:19 pm to DemonKA3268
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I'm also wondering where they will get the funding for this?
Police department rarely run into trouble finding funding for things, whether from city coffers or federal grants.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:19 pm to RLDSC FAN
There was a time when this country had mental health facilities. The people that control this govt don't want to pay for that. So they use stories like willowbrook to shut them down.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:20 pm to The Spleen
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Police department rarely run into trouble finding funding for things
Wrong
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:21 pm to The Spleen
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Police department rarely run into trouble finding funding for things, whether from city coffers or federal grants.
Um, that is a fallacy. Maybe for special projects like S.T.E.P. but year round?
Posted on 7/15/21 at 3:24 pm to c on z
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This is part of what people mean when they say ‘defund the police
Could you elaborate? I will probably not agree with you, but you were a good poster here before woke happened.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 4:12 pm to RLDSC FAN
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Laquan McDonald and Quintonio LeGrier, who were both apparently experiencing mental episodes when they were shot and killed by officers responding to 911 calls.
They ones they shoot rarely become repeat offenders.
Just saying.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 4:25 pm to RLDSC FAN
This will be great until one of these calls goes sideways and kills the MH worker.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 5:20 pm to RLDSC FAN
wait until a responder is killed or injured
Posted on 7/15/21 at 5:30 pm to RLDSC FAN
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“We’re super excited,” said Alex Heaton
I wonder how excited the mental health clinician that has to respond, unarmed and untrained, to a call on the south side where some piece of shite is going psycho.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 5:58 pm to Chucktown_Badger
Mental Health Dispatcher: "This is 911 what is your emergency?"
Victim: "I've just been shot and I'm bleeding to death."
Mental Health Dispatcher: "Hmm. How do you feel about that?"
Victim: "I've just been shot and I'm bleeding to death."
Mental Health Dispatcher: "Hmm. How do you feel about that?"
Posted on 7/15/21 at 6:39 pm to RLDSC FAN
Makes sense. Cops shouldn't be responding to mental illness calls. They aren't trained properly for that.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 7:12 pm to RLDSC FAN
Good. The sooner Chicago implodes, the better.
Posted on 7/15/21 at 7:20 pm to chinhoyang
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wait until a responder is killed or injured
How will you find out. The media is not going to cover it, and social media will remove it.
The death of that social worker at the hands of a psychopath never really happened...right Beetlejuice?
Posted on 7/15/21 at 8:19 pm to RLDSC FAN
If a persons behavior is “out of control” to the point that police must be called to the scene…..
There is absolutely nothing that a mental health worker (social worker, counsellor, psych nurse, psychologist, or psychiatrist) can do before a police office secures the unstable person.
That is how it is done in the ER or on an inpatient medical unit or even an inpatient psychiatric unit.
The only person who will benefit from this is a “friend of a politician” who will be paid $250,000 to be the administrative overseer of the worthless program.
(Take the above information with a grain of salt. I only have 25 years of inpatient and outpatient experience as a psychiatrist)
There is absolutely nothing that a mental health worker (social worker, counsellor, psych nurse, psychologist, or psychiatrist) can do before a police office secures the unstable person.
That is how it is done in the ER or on an inpatient medical unit or even an inpatient psychiatric unit.
The only person who will benefit from this is a “friend of a politician” who will be paid $250,000 to be the administrative overseer of the worthless program.
(Take the above information with a grain of salt. I only have 25 years of inpatient and outpatient experience as a psychiatrist)
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