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Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:48 am to
Posted by lsu480
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:48 am to
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Bingo. So many "race" issues are actually class issues.



No, they are IQ issues. Only one in 6 black people is as smart as the average white person. The average black IQ is 85, the average white is 103. THAT is the real issue that nobody ever talks about.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125397 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:49 am to
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Yes I do. Not all, but most.

Poor is poor and they all view repubs in the same light, regardless of their race.




then explain the red states with low minority population that still have lots of people on gov't hand outs

is there a downvoting bot in here
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:49 am to
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THAT is the real issue that nobody ever talks about.


except you

EVERY time something similar comes up
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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421881 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:50 am to
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then explain the red states with low minority population that still have lots of people on gov't hand outs

like west virgina, who has 2 DEM senators and a DEM state government?
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:51 am to
Because it matters and nobody, but me, ever talks about it!
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 9:52 am
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:51 am to
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It's cute when white people tell blacks what to feel.

You don't know. I get it. You want to be an expert on everything. I want to be an expert on everything, too. That's because I'm an a-hole. I want to be an expert on being a Kurd in Iraq. I want to be an expert on being white in Nigeria. I'm neither. I can guess, but I don't know, because I HAVENT frickING EXPERIENCED IT.

So, if you haven't experienced being black in America, kindly shut up.

I grew up without a father. He made lots of money. He wasn't deadbeat because he was poor. He was just an a-hole. The stories aren't always the same. Please diversify your worldview.




That's half their problems.
Posted by SabiDojo
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:51 am to
Come to Jackson, darryl. The mayor is black, the chief of police is black, the politicians are black, the cops are black, etc.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110701 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:53 am to
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No, they are IQ issues. Only one in 6 black people is as smart as the average white person. The average black IQ is 85, the average white is 103. THAT is the real issue that nobody ever talks about
Are you arguing that the average poor person is as smart as the average not poor person?
Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:53 am to
No
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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421881 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:54 am to
because at best it's not a productive angle to discuss and at worst it's outright racism
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28715 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:54 am to
Which is irrelevant, the percentages of educated blacks and whites unemployed are pretty similar. If what he was saying was correct, educated blacks would have a lower unemployed rate compared to whites. So the look around the office statement is valid.
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110701 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:55 am to
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Because it matters and nobody, but me, ever talks about it
Because everyone else knows you're wrong.

There's not some magical gene that makes white people smarter than black people. I'm fairly certain you don't even believe that...especially if you're such a smart white guy.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125397 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:55 am to
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like west virgina, who has 2 DEM senators and a DEM state government?



but then vote republican in the presidential election

the local dems are tied to the coal industry
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110701 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:55 am to
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No
So you're contradicting yourself?

No clue what's going on here lol.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23331 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:56 am to
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Black people in this day and age are generally afforded more opportunities than whites.


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You are full of shite.


Like every discussion on race, everyone wants to put everything into black and white (no pun intended) when in fact nothing has more shades of gray than race issues.

Sometimes, there is an advantage to being black. I know of employers who go out and seek someone black (e.g. a black prosecutor). Often, the opposite is true. Race neutrality as a goal has been hard to meet.

Years ago, I was on a flight with a black pilot. The man next to me said "well, we either have a pilot who was much better than everyone else since that's the only way he could get the job or we have the token, barely competent pilot."

Hopefully, we're beyond the point where it is either (a) or (b).



Posted by lsu480
Downtown Scottsdale
Member since Oct 2007
92876 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:56 am to
Show me one IQ study ever that shows IQ between races is equal, even when adjusted for income. Ill wait.
Posted by TigerPanzer
Orlando
Member since Sep 2006
9476 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:57 am to
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Black people in this day and age are generally afforded more opportunities than whites.

Explain that to some of the elementary school kids I read with here in Parrmore (Orlando).
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:58 am to
The fact that there are more black college grads unemployed than white high school grads should speak volumes...

But I guess that's what they fill our police forces with
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
421881 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:58 am to
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If what he was saying was correct, educated blacks would have a lower unemployed rate compared to whites. So the look around the office statement is valid.

who brought up this angle? i don't even know the stats on this to discuss. do you mean educated blacks v. all whites or educated whites?

i'll go look it up but i need to know what you're talking about exactly

i haven't seen the exact data, but economists like walter williams and thomas sowell have analyzed it and they have said (since the 70s) that educated black couples earn as much/more than white counterparts.

it's a problem of scale/proportion because there just aren't that many data points to use to compare, b/c black-married couples who are both college educated are rare. the exception and not the norm.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:59 am to
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quote:
Black people in this day and age are generally afforded more opportunities than whites.

Explain that to some of the elementary school kids I read with here in Parrmore (Orlando).


Ditto.
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