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re: Men Ain't Boys -- Powerful new DVD coming out on black men & fatherhood
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:12 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i doubt there is a pure genetic link to intelligence. it plays a role, but i bet environmental factors matter more. i mean studies are starting to show that many kids from violent inner cities have brains re-wired like PTSD. plus add in pure individual environmental factors like a diet that doesn't feed the brain. then add in cultural factors that see being smart as a negative, and the brain isn't worked (and it needs to be worked). do this, especially through puberty, and you're going to have a "speed limit" on genetics even if you started with a great IQ.
Truth. Plus I think you were a teacher and you know these tests often measure reading ability not intelligence. I concept that is hard for people outside of education to grasp
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:14 pm to SlowFlowPro
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quote: the 6-fold path 1. value education, do your work/homework, and graduate from high school 2. avoid criminal behavior and those who are involved in criminal behavior 3. avoid sex until you have a real job after high school 4. get a job in high school. this isn't for money as much as it is to give you experience in work and a history for future employers 5. get a bank account when you get a job, and before you're on your own and keep it as full as you can. do not overdraw the bank account. do not use credit. 6. act like a professional in all non-private settings that's not for black people. that's for poor people. and it doesn't guarantee wealth, just a very good shot at a solid middle class life
Once again truth
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:17 pm to GumbeauxGuy
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Actually, I'm not. I've fought for some of our minority employees, not just black, all minority, including women when I feel they are being treated unfair. But I can't stand to see a terrible employee get a free ride just because of the color of his skin. Fair is fair
Keep fightihg the good fight
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:18 pm to lsu480
No dude because you can tell by their overall behavior and how they react with a male authority figure. Truth.
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:19 pm to mikelowery1911
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quote: No, they are IQ issues. Only one in 6 black people is as smart as the average white person. The average black IQ is 85, the average white is 103. THAT is the real issue that nobody ever talks about.
You sure about this? Or is this your way of feeling awesome about yourself while simulatenously putting down "those people"?
I'm not a psychologist. But a simple Google search would have shown you that it is is widely known and accepted that there's an IQ difference between races. Instead you'd rather be an a-hole just to show how non racist you are
LINK
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:20 pm to mikelowery1911
quote:truth
Or is this your way of feeling awesome about yourself while simulatenously putting down "those people"?
baw
Posted on 12/29/14 at 10:00 pm to biglego
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quote: No, they are IQ issues. Only one in 6 black people is as smart as the average white person. The average black IQ is 85, the average white is 103. THAT is the real issue that nobody ever talks about.
You sure about this? Or is this your way of feeling awesome about yourself while simulatenously putting down "those people"?
I'm not a psychologist. But a simple Google search would have shown you that it is is widely known and accepted that there's an IQ difference between races. Instead you'd rather be an a-hole just to show how non racist you are
LINK
Here are a few peer reviewed, published studies that tie what you would call IQ and academic success more to socioeconomics than race. Paraphrasing SPF earlier, the effects of PTSD and poverty on brain development makes it damn near impossible to correlate race and IQ. Race and poverty strongly correlate with socioeconomic status.
LINK
LINK
LINK
Posted on 12/29/14 at 11:36 pm to biglego
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I'm not a psychologist. But a simple Google search would have shown you that it is is widely known and accepted that there's an IQ difference between races. Instead you'd rather be an a-hole just to show how non racist you are
This is 100% true BUT people need to realize that you still need to judge everyone on their own merit. There are lots of black people that are smarter than any of us.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 11:43 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i doubt there is a pure genetic link to intelligence. i
I doubt there is a pure genetic link to why whites are taller than Asians
I doubt there is a pure genetic link why the average black person has longer legs than the average white person
Just keep doubting away, every race is exactly the same, no matter what, because if not its racist.
Posted on 12/29/14 at 11:54 pm to mikelowery1911
Great links! Your first link had nothing to do with race, your second specifically said whites have higher IQ than blacks and your third once again had nothing to do with race.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:05 am to drunkenpunkin
Most of them can't read what's on the voters pamphlet.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:11 am to biglego
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I'm not a psychologist. But a simple Google search would have shown you that it is is widely known and accepted that there's an IQ difference between races. Instead you'd rather be an a-hole just to show how non racist you are
I'm not sure if this is 100% accurate or not, honestly because I don't care to know the truth. That is a scary stat right there, one that I would rather not be known or shared. Would you really want to tell young black kids that you are naturally dumber than the white kid next to you. This issue as you say would solve nothing and only cause problem a problems
Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:12 am to dj30
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Or me being one of a few black people at my company in the business world. Or me working in the business world and working with 98% whites from other companies. Or me seeing equally qualified blacks passed over for promotions because of race. I know of all the damn programs you are talking about and only a fool, which it seems that you are would think that it would be easier for a black man in this world. White men get everything in this world and I've seen this same bullshite in this site multiple times. Just look around your damn office, (if you actually have one) and you tell me how many blacks you see compared to whites.
Maybe you need to work for a different company then.. My wife is in the medical field and they honestly don't see color, just performance.
My company doesn't care, I work with international people (oh my god, black people too), it really doesn't make a difference to me or my company what your ethnicity is.
you really need to get over it. If you're the token black guy in your office that got the job over a better qualified white guy, enjoy the tenure. If you're that upset about the lack of diversity, you options are to move up into upper management and hire more blacks so you can feel better or quit and find a company that's more racially suited to your tastes.
You might be a lawyer for all I know, you also might be a stockman. Either way you're part of the problem. Your post sounded very whiney. Or me, Or me, Or me. Me Me Me Me then blame it on whitey.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:17 am to QJenk
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I'm not sure if this is 100% accurate or not, honestly because I don't care to know the truth. That is a scary stat right there, one that I would rather not be known or shared. Would you really want to tell young black kids that you are naturally dumber than the white kid next to you. This issue as you say would solve nothing and only cause problem a problems
Of course you don't say that because there is a good chance that isn't true and the black kid could be smarter than the white kid next to him. I do think its not fair to expect kids that are not as smart to be in the same classes and compete with smart kids, regardless of race. I don't know what the answer is but I don't think anyone will until we start honestly discussing it.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:27 am to lsu480
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This is 100% true BUT people need to realize that you still need to judge everyone on their own merit. There are lots of black people that are smarter than any of us.
Well yeah, I was just responding to the dude who implied you were a racist just for posting the IQ stat. People like him are a problem.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 12:32 am to QJenk
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honestly because I don't care to know the truth. That is a scary stat right there, one that I would rather not be known or shared. Would you really want to tell young black kids that you are naturally dumber than the white kid next to you. This issue as you say would solve nothing and only cause problem a problems
I understand this feeling. There are so many smart black people I know that I don't even know if that IQ stat means anything. But it's there nonetheless, just as few honest whites would argue that the average black guy will run a little faster, or that the average Asian is shorter, or the average Bama fan is inbred
Posted on 12/30/14 at 1:13 am to LSUButt
I'm not making excuses but when you're treated like a paycheck most people will have pent up aggression. I overheard a 2-3 year old crying getting into a car and the mom kept yelling at him to stop being such a little pussy.
Moms like that are the problem, imo. If they were t like that then maybe they'd keep a man around to help raise their kids.
Moms like that are the problem, imo. If they were t like that then maybe they'd keep a man around to help raise their kids.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:23 am to biglego
The butthurt by libs and some black posters about the IQ studies is ridiculous. It's an "average" people, not every single person.
Should I as a white person be offended, pissed off, and cry racism because Asians have an average IQ higher than whites?
Instead of denying the science or test scores, why not just be grateful that you most likely score much higher than the average.
Should I as a white person be offended, pissed off, and cry racism because Asians have an average IQ higher than whites?
Instead of denying the science or test scores, why not just be grateful that you most likely score much higher than the average.
Posted on 12/30/14 at 7:32 am to House_of Cards
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this is where I as a 27 year old defer to some older folks. We're blavks not legitimately making forward strides in the 40-50s before LBJ launched these massive government programs?
Honest question:
Have you ever taken an American history class? Have you ever been to the southern United States?
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