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Posted on 12/29/14 at 8:36 am to
Posted by drunkenpunkin
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 8:36 am to
Bingo. So many "race" issues are actually class issues.
Posted by bobaftt1212
Hills of TN
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 8:50 am to
Poor trashy people gonna do poor trashy things. Mandatory birth control for recipients of public assistance could clear up the problem in a generation or 2.
Posted by James Russell
Member since Dec 2014
393 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 8:51 am to
Yep.
This post was edited on 1/5/15 at 2:35 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 8:52 am to
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Almost every white/black issue is actually exactly what you said.

but then the issue becomes how to deal with SJWs who expect equal outcomes

i'll give a great example: race in the tech industry. it's a relatively hot topic the past few months tech is a high-minority field, even. it's just not populated by black minorities, so the SJW claim racism (in a field highly populated by minorities)

it's an issue of culture, which will guide the class you find yourself. the only group who can change the culture of a particular group is the group itself. an outside group can't change the culture of an inner group.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125397 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 8:57 am to
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Poor trashy people gonna do poor trashy things. Mandatory birth control for recipients of public assistance could clear up the problem in a generation or 2.



and poor trashy whites will vote republican even though the democrat hand outs help them. The take the hand outs then bash the left.

or the black vote is majority dem even though conservative policies benefit the more affluent blacks.
Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Sep 2008
5596 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 8:59 am to
Most poor trashy whites don't vote Repub.
Posted by drunkenpunkin
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2011
7659 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:00 am to
I'd bet most don't vote at all.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125397 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:01 am to
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Most poor trashy whites don't vote Repub.



yea then explain all those red states that have populations that have take a lot of gov't hand out.


You really think backwoods white trash vote dem
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:02 am to
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and poor trashy whites will vote republican

this is not close to a monolithic bloc. hell i'd imagine the majority of trashy whites (who actually vote) go DEM these days

white trash knows what the system does for it and how to work the system. in high union areas, they vote DEM also to keep that gravy train running
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110703 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:02 am to
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and poor trashy whites will vote republican even though the democrat hand outs help them
Is this correct?

I'm not into politics at all, but I always thought poor folks tend to stick with democrats...I know my Mom does and she's poor and white...but not trash.
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 9:03 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:03 am to
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yea then explain all those red states that have populations that have take a lot of gov't hand out.

which ones lack large minority populations?

i'll go look but i'd imagine that WV/KY/VA mid-Atlantic area is as good as you'll do, and they're purple
Posted by VetteGuy
Member since Feb 2008
28093 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:04 am to
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white trash knows what the system does for it and how to work the system. in high union areas, they vote DEM also to keep that gravy train running



100% correct.

Lowlifes of all shapes and colors have one thing in common:
they are expert at gaming the system.
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
125397 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:06 am to
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which ones lack large minority populations?

i'll go look but i'd imagine that WV/KY/VA mid-Atlantic area is as good as you'll do, and they're purple



WV, KY, Idaho, etc
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Member since Jan 2004
421901 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:11 am to
WV is 93.8% white and they have TWO senators that are DEM and their reps are split with 2 GOP and 1 DEM. governor is a DEM, and so is the Lt Gov

they did vote Romney 62%

like i said, purple. plenty of poor white trash are voting DEM in west virginia
Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Sep 2008
5596 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:14 am to
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you really think backwoods white trash vote dem


Yes I do. Not all, but most.

Poor is poor and they all view repubs in the same light, regardless of their race.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421901 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:27 am to
if you take out the holy rollers, i'd imagine the VAST majority of trashy whites vote DEM in the south/mid-atlantic

and most of the holy rollers would vote DEM if the candidate was a rare pro-life DEM
Posted by dj30
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2006
28720 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:41 am to
Or me being one of a few black people at my company in the business world.
Or me working in the business world and working with 98% whites from other companies.
Or me seeing equally qualified blacks passed over for promotions because of race.

I know of all the damn programs you are talking about and only a fool, which it seems that you are would think that it would be easier for a black man in this world. White men get everything in this world and I've seen this same bullshite in this site multiple times. Just look around your damn office, (if you actually have one) and you tell me how many blacks you see compared to whites.
This post was edited on 12/29/14 at 9:43 am
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421901 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:46 am to
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Just look around your damn office, (if you actually have one) and you tell me how many blacks you see compared to whites.

this is like the "tech industry is racist" argument. blacks are approximately 12-13% of the population. as a group they're much less likely to make good educational choices and graduate from college. if we're talking offices, there are just so many black college graduates to populate those offices. even if they graduated at relatively similar rates, the odds are going to be close to 1 in 10 workers being black due to population breakdowns
Posted by Panny Crickets
Fort Worth, TX
Member since Sep 2008
5596 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:47 am to
Don't bring facts to this discussion, please. Thanks.
Posted by chinhoyang
Member since Jun 2011
23331 posts
Posted on 12/29/14 at 9:47 am to
but did you live in a neighborhood where all the kids that you hung out with were in the same fatherless circumstances?
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