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re: Megachurch pastor buys wife a $200,000 Lamborghini
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:19 pm to ShoeBang
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:19 pm to ShoeBang
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Not going to try and dispute you because I have no real evidence to the contrary to convince you other than a priest telling me that if I want money to go to my church, to put it in the basket. If I want it to go to THE CHURCH, donate to the services appeal or mail in the check as my monthly gift without earmarks for what it is used for.
I asked him the exact question of "How do I know my money isn't paying for the Church to cover up pedophiles?" And that was what I was told. Earmark checks or give in the basket.
I can tell you what our parish does in the Arch of NOLA.
Our parish is "assessed" X dollars a year to fund the Archdiocese. We have special collections throughout the year to raise money to pay this assessment.
However, if we don't raise enough money via the special collections, absolutely the difference comes out of the parish general fund (i.e. what we collect in the weekly plate).
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:20 pm to 777Tiger
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going on in my neighborhood
You happen to live near a certain Ric Flair looking preacher in Destrahan?
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:23 pm to ShoeBang
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Not going to try and dispute you because I have no real evidence to the contrary to convince you other than a priest telling me that if I want money to go to my church, to put it in the basket. If I want it to go to THE CHURCH, donate to the services appeal or mail in the check as my monthly gift without earmarks for what it is used for.
Well, of course he's going to say that. It's complicated, but *all* donations--cash or otherwise--are pooled for common expenses. Most of the settlements are funded by self-insurance and excess coverage policies. These policies are 100% funded by donation. Yes, that coverage covers lots of other stuff, too. But, you are helping to fund diocese settlements.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:23 pm to GetCocky11
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Relentless Church
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:28 pm to GetCocky11
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Megachurche
same level of stupidity as religion in general, just on a larger scale
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:29 pm to Ex-Popcorn
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But, you are helping to fund diocese settlements.
No different than how our tax dollars fund settlements of politicians accused of harassment.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:30 pm to Ex-Popcorn
You have to consider context and the rest of the bible. Jesus was laying out what it would take for following him: give up everything, family, jobs, comfort, take up your cross. BUT, in other places in the bible, it's spelled out how to love and serve your family. So if you're going to believe the bible at all, you have to believe all of it, and that means it doesn't contradict itself.
I had this realization years ago when my son was first born and I didn't think I could love anybody as much as him. Then I thouhgt of how much God loves him, how much he knows about him......evertyhing, including every little baby dream he's having, knowing that my son is His and I just am blessed with the privilege to raise him and watch him grow up. In comparison, my love seems like hate when put up against the inmeasurable love of God.
It's a lot, and I acknowledge easy for skeptics to pick apart, but it's what I believe is truth.
I had this realization years ago when my son was first born and I didn't think I could love anybody as much as him. Then I thouhgt of how much God loves him, how much he knows about him......evertyhing, including every little baby dream he's having, knowing that my son is His and I just am blessed with the privilege to raise him and watch him grow up. In comparison, my love seems like hate when put up against the inmeasurable love of God.
It's a lot, and I acknowledge easy for skeptics to pick apart, but it's what I believe is truth.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:30 pm to LSUFanHouston
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No different than how our tax dollars fund settlements of politicians accused of harassment.
Well, it's different in that I don't have a choice in paying taxes.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:31 pm to Ex-Popcorn
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Well, it's different in that I don't have a choice in paying taxes.
Right. So in that regard, the government is worse than religion. yeech.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:32 pm to sicboy
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I had this realization years ago when my son was first born and I didn't think I could love anybody as much as him. Then I thouhgt of how much God loves him, how much he knows about him......evertyhing, including every little baby dream he's having, knowing that my son is His and I just am blessed with the privilege to raise him and watch him grow up. In comparison, my love seems like hate when put up against the inmeasurable love of God.
I'm a parent. I cannot bring myself to believe that you truly believe that. I know you do. And that's a hard pill for me to swallow.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:35 pm to LSUFanHouston
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You happen to live near a certain Ric Flair looking preacher in Destrahan?
no, I'm in DFW metroplex, neighbor next door sold his house for in the mid 400s, immediately a young, hot chick moved in, with four "adopted" daughters from Kenya, said the church was "helping" her out, she had moved from the same development about 4-5 blocks away, no job, said she is "involved" with the(mega)church, three of the girls in pricey private schools, one in public school, not long after they moved in, the house was completely renovated, and I mean everything, floors, cabinets, bathrooms, paint, electrical fixtures, appliances, added a pergola by the pool, everything, it was a brand new house, talked to all of the contractors, all of them every time I talked to them made a point of saying that they were doing everything pro bono and were volunteering, "mom" and kids were put up somewhere by the church as this took a couple of months, mom drives a brand new Caddy Escalade, also mom has three other fairly hot chicks from the church staying there to help her with the girls, nobody has a job btw, won't be surprised to see it on the market soon, good thing is the hot chicks come over for wine occaisonally
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:37 pm to GetCocky11
When you live a lot better than they guy you preach about something is wrong.
I guess Jesus pays.
I guess Jesus pays.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:37 pm to 777Tiger
Is there a dad involved? Or is this the side piece of the pastor?
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:38 pm to Ex-Popcorn
There is a reason that my thithe doesn't go to CotH, where I attend. I feel my thithe is handled more responsibly by another organization, GospelLink.
And thithing isn't limited to cash either.
And thithing isn't limited to cash either.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:39 pm to GetCocky11
Here is a pastor talking some sense about megachurches.
LINK
LINK
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"Pastors are very powerful people that have lots of connections, when that much power gets concentrated, bad things happen that have huge impacts."
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"The nature of [the Christian] concept of the flesh is that we are bent toward being self-preserving and self-exalting. Somehow that bent gets fed and flourishes as we become more visible to an approving public," he said. "Leading a very large church can be extremely difficult to do well, and almost dangerous from that standpoint."
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:40 pm to Ex-Popcorn
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I'm a parent. I cannot bring myself to believe that you truly believe that. I know you do. And that's a hard pill for me to swallow.
Matt Chandler, pastor out of Dallas, put it best. You have to acknowledge that what we believe is crazy and hard to believe. If you present the gospel in a way that is easy to understand, you're not preaching the gospel, it's something else entirely.
What I have to realize that all that I have is a gift from God. Every last thing, including my family. The phrase "sixpence none the richer" comes from C.S. Lewis, where he talks about a father giving his child sixpence and that child going to buy the father a gift. But it was the father's to begin with.
Trust me, I love my children very much. And I have my doubts that if I were to ever be placed in a decsion where I needed to give them up in obedience of God that I'd be able to, but that's the goal. To love God that much.
Road is narrow.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:40 pm to 777Tiger
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no, I'm in DFW metroplex, neighbor next door sold his house for in the mid 400s, immediately a young, hot chick moved in, with four "adopted" daughters from Kenya, said the church was "helping" her out, she had moved from the same development about 4-5 blocks away, no job, said she is "involved" with the(mega)church, three of the girls in pricey private schools, one in public school, not long after they moved in, the house was completely renovated, and I mean everything, floors, cabinets, bathrooms, paint, electrical fixtures, appliances, added a pergola by the pool, everything, it was a brand new house, talked to all of the contractors, all of them every time I talked to them made a point of saying that they were doing everything pro bono and were volunteering, "mom" and kids were put up somewhere by the church as this took a couple of months, mom drives a brand new Caddy Escalade, also mom has three other fairly hot chicks from the church staying there to help her with the girls, nobody has a job btw, won't be surprised to see it on the market soon, good thing is the hot chicks come over for wine occaisonally
It's a brothel.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:41 pm to GetCocky11
That Joyce Meyers woman. Apparently this is her house/land.
Here is a map so you know what each building is.
Here is a map so you know what each building is.
Posted on 12/12/18 at 12:42 pm to sicboy
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Trust me, I love my children very much. And I have my doubts that if I were to ever be placed in a decsion where I needed to give them up in obedience of God that I'd be able to, but that's the goal. To love God that much.
Weird.
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