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re: McKnight shooter released from custody...Cliffnotes of Normand press conf inside
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:09 pm to ScopeCreep
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:09 pm to ScopeCreep
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CPR was performed on him.
yeah, most of us saw the video of them doing CPR on Joe but it doesnt show them moving his body, just they were on top of him doing CPR
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Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:09 pm to tygeray
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If McKnight was chasing him for several miles, it would be very easy for someone to be fearful of their life if McKnight even came close to reaching in. One would also think that if he was fearful, he would have called 911 during the chase.
Good point actually.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:10 pm to Emiliooo
quote:so, do you care to change your position on this? You still think they should have a man in custody when his testimony and the evidence they've gathered so far do not prove that he committed a murder? Again, emotions should play no part in decisions of law enforcement holding someone captive.
Emiliooo
So far, JPSO is convinced that the shooter's testimony has been backed by facts (i.e., evidence at the scene and coroner reports). And they obviously do not see evidence that what he did was not self-defense.
So, tell me again why he should be in custody?
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:10 pm to slackster
If someone is at your car window yelling you have no idea wtf their intention is. Me being me and having a gun,im ending that quickly and going home at night. I'm not waiting to find out if he's armed or not and I hope that never happens to you and you try to use your kumbaya let's hug it out bro method
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:10 pm to MightyYat
Yes they do at Tullis and Behrman on top the signals. Now do they work. Meh
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:11 pm to shel311
were all 3 shots through the open window? is it possible any of the bullets went through the vehicle itself?
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:11 pm to MightyYat
quote:At this point, can't you just admit it looks Gasser will walk and the release was justified?
MightyYat
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:11 pm to dabigfella
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If someone is at your car window yelling you have no idea wtf their intention is. Me being me and having a gun,in ending that quickly and going home at night. I'm not waiting to find out if he's armed or not and I hope that never happens to you and you try to use your kumbaya let's hug it out bro method
You're getting dumber with every post.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:11 pm to baldona
quote:not necessarily. following someone in a car does not necessarily prove someone is being aggressive. it would be very hard to prove that either one was not just driving in the same direction unless they were obviously breaking traffic laws in order to follow the other.
I'd have to assume they have reviewed other traffic videos of previous intersections, and that Joe was the one following Gasser? Seems like it would of been a lot different if Gasser was the one following joe.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:11 pm to slackster
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You can't just shoot someone arguing at your window.
If he's inside of your car window and/or grabbing you and you fear for your life and safety, you can.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:11 pm to lsupride87
Liberals will conver concede ever bro,don't even try. Hillary is still fighting for a recount lol
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:11 pm to SohCahToa
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So after that, do we still think Gasser shouldn't have been released?
I certainly don't think the evidence proves he acted in self defense convincingly, but I believe it certainly disproves a lot of the shite people were assuming previously. It's pretty clear they don't think they can disprove his self defense claim with what they have now.
Yes, I think at this point all of this is true. Gasser is arguing self defense and there is nothing tangible that says otherwise. The other side of the story is dead, so who knows what happens next.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:11 pm to slackster
quote:I agree in general, but I don't think that is so as a blanket statement.
Just so we're abundantly clear, if Joe got out and they were arguing at Gasser's window, Gasser does not have legal grounds to shoot him yet. If Joe tries to get into the car or if Gasser reasonably fears that his life is in imminent danger, then he's justified, but those grounds have to be met. You can't just shoot someone arguing at your window.
If McKnight was driving erratically and following him, then got out and approached, putting myself in the dude's shoes, I may very well fear for my life without the person saying a word, just approaching my car might be enough.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:12 pm to Rouge
quote:
Riot would be justified
Still think so?
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:12 pm to dabigfella
quote:Or jail
Me being me and having a gun,im ending that quickly and going home at night.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:13 pm to lsupride87
The picture in this article shows, McKnight's car on the passenger side of Gasser's car. McKnight's body is behind and between both cars. My guess is McKnight was on the passenger side of Gasser's vehicle when he was shot.
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Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:13 pm to shel311
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If McKnight was driving erratically and following him, then got out and approached, putting myself in the dude's shoes, I may very well fear for my life without the person saying a word, just approaching my car might be enough.
yep especially in that part of town
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:13 pm to slackster
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You can't just shoot someone arguing at your window.
What if he's saying things like I'm going to murder you and your family? The statute doesn't make that so clear. Is standing at your door of your home or your driver side car door considered "IN" your space?
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(4)(a) When committed by a person lawfully inside a dwelling, a place of business, or a motor vehicle as defined in R.S. 32:1(40) when the conflict began, against a person who is attempting to make an unlawful entry into the dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle, or who has made an unlawful entry into the dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle, and the person committing the homicide reasonably believes that the use of deadly force is necessary to prevent the entry or to compel the intruder to leave the dwelling, place of business, or motor vehicle.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:13 pm to slackster
quote:i really don't know the answer to my question. But, does the law require the accused to prove that they felt they were in imminent danger? Or, does the government have to prove that they were NOT in reasonable danger? Which one?
but those grounds have to be met.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 2:13 pm to shel311
Apparently not jail man,gasser is at home right chillin
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