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re: McKinney TX. building the most expensive High School stadium. 70 million dollars
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:58 am to TigerFred
Posted on 5/18/17 at 10:58 am to TigerFred
quote:wonder why Louisiana can't do this? We'd all be called racist for wanting neighborhood schools.
I have no desire to move out of the school district now to save money on taxes because the good schools, community, the infrastructure keeps my property value high and growing.
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Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:00 am to meauxjeaux2
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wonder why Louisiana can't do this? We'd all be called racist for wanting neighborhood schools.
Cmon MJ2 we all know why. Anyone who has lived in La for any extended amount of time knows why!
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:01 am to jrodLSUke
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you Libertarian hypocrite.
There's nothing hypocritical about my position. If I could terminate the student activity fees that partially fund the athletic departments of public colleges, I would. If only I could waive a wand and declare that the only method for fundraising for a new stadium or renovations for stadiums would be through private fundraising, I would.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:02 am to 50_Tiger
i used to ride my bike to my neighborhood school when I was a kid. Parents cared about the school and school functions were always packed. Not anymore.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:03 am to shel311
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A couple of posters blasting this stating it shows they don't care about education are really just talking without understanding this and just how fantastic education is in this area.
People are just jaded because they live in Louisiana or other areas.
As Fred said....The higher property taxes in Texas are offset via no state income taxes. And then you have to consider the fact that you actually don't have to pay for private schools and you come out way ahead.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:05 am to meauxjeaux2
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wonder why Louisiana can't do this? We'd all be called racist for wanting neighborhood schools.
I grew up in Texas and when I went to LSU I was confused as shite as to why everyone was being bused all over the city. My reaction was dufuk....why don't you guys just go to the schools in your neighborhood?????
The Texas model is exactly why St George will work if they can get separated.
This post was edited on 5/18/17 at 11:07 am
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:05 am to tylercsbn9
people also don't realize that a lot of Texans are putting livestock on their property to negate any property taxes and basically living tax free.
My aunt in Beaumont does this. Raises Welsh ponies and for every head she has there is a tax deduction.
ETA- Called AgEX .
My aunt in Beaumont does this. Raises Welsh ponies and for every head she has there is a tax deduction.
ETA- Called AgEX .
This post was edited on 5/18/17 at 11:09 am
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:05 am to Bmath
quote:Yea.
You obviously have never been to McKinney. Crime and poverty are next to nonexistent. The majority of the people there have a lot of money to burn.
That poster is just speaking out a lot but from a place of simply not understanding this area compared to where he may live.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:07 am to SCLibertarian
quote:And you'd be doing a disservice to kids in these ISDs if you did.
There's nothing hypocritical about my position. If I could terminate the student activity fees that partially fund the athletic departments of public colleges, I would. If only I could waive a wand and declare that the only method for fundraising for a new stadium or renovations for stadiums would be through private fundraising, I would.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:07 am to meauxjeaux2
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people also don't realize that a lot of Texans are putting livestock on their property to negate any property taxes and basically living tax free.
My aunt in Beaumont does this. Raises Welsh ponies and for every head she has there is a tax deduction.
Yes but that aint happening in places like Katy and McKinney with the amazing public schools. HOAs would go nuclear
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:09 am to meauxjeaux2
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wonder why Louisiana can't do this? We'd all be called racist for wanting neighborhood schools.
If you look at why ISDs in TX were initially formed, it was in response to rapidly growing populations. Not because of an attempt to improve schools.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:09 am to shel311
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And you'd be doing a disservice to kids in these ISDs if you did.
Not using public funds to build a 70 million dollar stadium?
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:10 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:i see it as an investment into the school system and the system should see a financial ROI.
Not using public funds to build a 70 million dollar stadium?
How else can you look at this?
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:13 am to Kracka
If you are a head football coach at a N Texas highschool you are at the same level as the principal. You do not have to each classes and many make about 100K a year.
All Frisco high schools are less than 20 years old.. Frisco now has 9 high schools.. every high school has an indoor practice facility like Plano, McKinney, Allen etc.
These stadiums are used by multiple ISD high schools for games.
Also Frisco, McKinney and Plano schools are some of the top rated high schools in the country.
All Frisco high schools are less than 20 years old.. Frisco now has 9 high schools.. every high school has an indoor practice facility like Plano, McKinney, Allen etc.
These stadiums are used by multiple ISD high schools for games.
Also Frisco, McKinney and Plano schools are some of the top rated high schools in the country.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:13 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Yes.
Not using public funds to build a 70 million dollar stadium?
The stadium will have a positive ROI, pretty sure of that. Admittedly, a lot of is probably indirect, so it'll be really tough to actually quantify its benefits and return, but it is absolutely there.
The stadium will be the home of many schools, organizations, across multiple sports. I don't know if people are just thinking it'll be used once a week on Friday nights during high school football season, but this thing will be used constantly.
This enhances so many facets of the ISD, education, and the attractiveness of living in this area. I don't mean this one singular stadium, I'm talking about that one stadium as a microcosm of everything going on in this area. It is all part of the reason why this area is in the top of the top in the entire nation in terms of education. McKinney is routinely voted on as one of the top 5 places to live in America. It's reasons like that.
And the other thing is, as I've said, if you're thinking you could have allocated that $70mil to better use elsewhere, I'd simply say whatever that "elsewhere" is already has money allocated to it and is doing just fine. Nothing is being lost or sacrificed by this.
And finally, taxpayers voted on this, and they voted for it, so...
This post was edited on 5/18/17 at 11:14 am
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:17 am to meauxjeaux2
High school football in Texas is like what college football is in the SEC, but in the SEC and college football in general, when there are major upgrades to stadiums, schools generate the money to be able to afford them.
But looking at this stadium, I can't believe that many people would attend a HS football game. I know the picture shows a packed stadium, but even if that stadium is half full, that's a lot of people at a HS game.
But looking at this stadium, I can't believe that many people would attend a HS football game. I know the picture shows a packed stadium, but even if that stadium is half full, that's a lot of people at a HS game.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:19 am to goldennugget
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Things will change in 30 years
30 years ago all the rich upper class whites lived in East Fort Worth and Hurst-Euless-Bedford. White flight now has those places with more minorities than whites living there.
Who is to say 30 years from now McKinney or Allen won't suffer the same fate.
Anything is possible, but that scenario is highly unlikely.
The true wealth in the Metroplex is Preston Hollow and Highland Park in Dallas and since the 80's Willow Bend in Plano. All three areas are still the hold the wealth position today.
McKinney and Frisco are now what Plano was 30years ago because Plano is land locked and McKinney and Frisco has the availability for growth.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:20 am to tylercsbn9
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I grew up in Texas and when I went to LSU I was confused as shite as to why everyone was being bused all over the city. My reaction was dufuk....why don't you guys just go to the schools in your neighborhood?????
Many cities around the country had to deal with desegregation in some capacity. There was nothing special about what was going on in BR.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:32 am to SCLibertarian
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How so? By thinking that taxpayer money should not be used to build sports stadiums?
The school has a top tier rating 9/10 or 10/10 depending on rating provider. The stadium will be a great ROI as it will be billed out for venues.
Posted on 5/18/17 at 11:33 am to shel311
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The stadium will have a positive ROI, pretty sure of that. Admittedly, a lot of is probably indirect, so it'll be really tough to actually quantify its benefits and return, but it is absolutely there.
I get what you are saying and these did just be more than a football stadium. However, the football stadium has absolutely become pissing contest of "who can have the nicest" between the Texas Burbs.
I really don't buy the argument that ticket sales generate enough revenue. They are like $5. Even at max capacity for every game that is going to take awhile.
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And finally, taxpayers voted on this, and they voted for it, so...
I would have voted but that isn't my problem.
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