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re: Math and reading scores for 13-year-olds in the U.S. have hit the lowest levels in decades
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:28 am to GetCocky11
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:28 am to GetCocky11
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Community college or some kind of 1 year apprenticeship once finished with high school. Just something lower stakes so you can figure things out a little before dropping $100k in loans on a 4 year university.
The problem is getting everybody on board for free CC. Tennessee managed it but when it was brought up here it was shot down as a “woke initiative”.
I like what Australia has where the government helps subsidize apprenticeships and works with employers to provide those across the board. It’s a structured pathway that can start when they are as a young as 15 years old.
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:29 am to lsu777
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you realize this might be the case across the board but your successful people that are raising successful kids....yea its the opposite.
Successful people who value education certainly do an you will always have them. But even successful people are declining in cognitive abilities overall.
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However, a 2018 study of Norway has punctured these theories by showing that IQs are dropping not just across societies but within families. In other words, the issue is not that educated Norwegians are increasingly outnumbered by lower-IQ immigrants or the children of less-educated citizens. Even children born to high-IQ parents are slipping down the IQ ladder.
Its not just the outbreeding, its the lack of cognitive development stunted by technology IMO and increased isolationist trends.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:30 am to BluegrassBelle
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The problem is getting everybody on board for free CC.
It certainly is a place to start and will have more broad support than many other measures.
But until education systems go back to developing standards of behavior and performance, it isn't going to change.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:31 am to GetCocky11
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I'm shocked there isn't a bigger push for year-round school. The current setup is completely antiquated.
no one wants to hear the teachers bitch about it
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:34 am to whoa
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Also, I’m in favor of kids going to school year round. Take 2 week breaks at various times throughout the year but year round just makes more sense.
I’m in favor of year around school but I also don’t believe that it will move the needle in terms of performance. We operate in an antiquated Prussian education model that needs to change.
Making a 10 year old boy sit in a desk in a row for seven hours a day isn’t going to yield results.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:38 am to BluegrassBelle
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I like what Australia has where the government helps subsidize apprenticeships
Same thing happens in Alaska.
Still struggle to attract people to work despite the opportunity. Apprenticeships require classwork, I don't really see them any different than a paid 4 year training program.
The Gold mines locally pay an avg o 120k, state pays training and they can't keep up with labor demand.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:45 am to RLDSC FAN
All by design. Plan is working perfectly.
I bet these kids can tell you all about the LBGTXYZ+3 movement though.
Make sure you thank a Democrat today! This is exactly what they want.
I bet these kids can tell you all about the LBGTXYZ+3 movement though.
Make sure you thank a Democrat today! This is exactly what they want.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:45 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Humanity is devolving.
Break those numbers out by ethnicity.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:47 am to RLDSC FAN
Demographics are getting worse
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:47 am to Antonio Moss
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Making a 10 year old boy sit in a desk in a row for seven hours a day isn’t going to yield results.
Elementary kids shouldn't be in school 7-8 hours a day. That's absolute torture for many youngsters, I don't think its healthy.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:50 am to ibldprplgld
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It’s almost like school systems kowtowing to teachers unions that wanted extended shutdowns hurt the very people they are both supposed to help: the students…
If only someone had raised a red flag on this… OH WAIT, conservative parents did and they were labeled domestic terrorists by the DOJ.
This will get downvoted but it is a FACT.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:53 am to Lima Whiskey
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Break those numbers out by ethnicity.
Don't have them, but there is proof of dropping cognition within families, white ones too.
Successful people too. Kids aren't problem solving like they used to and making social connections in person. Its showing.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:54 am to Antonio Moss
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We operate in an antiquated Prussian education model that needs to change.
Making a 10 year old boy sit in a desk in a row for seven hours a day isn’t going to yield results.
This is absolutely true. Also, the curriculum we teach is complete dog water and basically useless to a vast portion of our population. In this day and age, we need to be teaching kids how to deal with their emotions more effectively, how to deal with failure, how to communicate in a proper manner for business and humanity both written and oral. How to manage tasks and time, basic math skills for life.
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 10:58 am
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:54 am to Lima Whiskey
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Break those numbers out by ethnicity.
While there will no doubt be a steep decline in the usual groups, the majority is also getting dumber as well. You can't have all these fantasy land movements now without the support of the majority.
This was all by design. Idiocracy is here. Can we reverse it? Not likely. Any steps taken will be considered "white supremacy" and will be shot down immediately.
Don't get me started on teacher's unions. They are the worst.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:55 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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This was all by design.
By separating people from traditional social institutions.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:01 am to RLDSC FAN
quote:Good new for my two 12 year old kids who have great math scores.
Math and reading scores for 13-year-olds in the U.S. have hit the lowest levels in decades
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:06 am to EZE Tiger Fan
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Don't get me started on teacher's unions. They are the worst.
They've turned education centers into day cares.
The public system is more of a job creator than an education center.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:06 am to RLDSC FAN
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Performance has fallen significantly since the 2019-2020 school year, when the coronavirus pandemic wrought havoc on the nation’s education system.
Could say a ton about this and how culpable the fear mongers are for irreparable damage they unnecessarily caused for political purposes, but instead I’ll say that the education system’s response to COVID 19 is when the average Joe finally realized that public education is not actually about the kids.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:06 am to RLDSC FAN
Liberal's and Democrats alike all rejoice over this news.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 11:08 am to Antonio Moss
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I’m in favor of year around school but I also don’t believe that it will move the needle in terms of performance. We operate in an antiquated Prussian education model that needs to change
Yes, the entire model needs an overhaul. But I think it starts with year round school. So many kids lose ground just over summer, only for teachers to come back & have to spend the first 6 weeks of school getting everyone back on the same page. There’s also a lot that can be said about standardized testing. Teachers only teach for the test & it’s engrained in these kids minds all year that this test is all that matters.
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