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re: Math and reading scores for 13-year-olds in the U.S. have hit the lowest levels in decades
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:11 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:11 am to RogerTheShrubber
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We could do this for far less money. All kids have had access to education or a long time. I don't want public schools destroyed, I want the stranglehold they have on the system and the catering to people who do not value education. Start focusing on your higher achievers and you will see a huge difference. Public schools have catered to the lowest common denominator for too long.
You can still educate the “lowest common denominator” when you remove outright disruptions and chaos.
Combine that with realistic career pathways in high school that don’t exclusively push kids into college, you could actually go a long way to bolstering trades that are struggling to get bodies in their fields.
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Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:12 am to NIH
I’ve abstained the last two Presidential elections. I’m tired of choosing the lesser of two evils.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:13 am to BluegrassBelle
quote:this is so tired
that don’t exclusively push kids into college
It’s not a thing in 2023 outside of the few good schools/advanced programs
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:13 am to BluegrassBelle
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You can still educate the “lowest common denominator”
You can't educate people who do not value education. The entire system is built around supporting kids "on the margins." Its a total failure.
My experience in mainstreamed classrooms is that the low achievers get an incredibly inappropriate share of the recourses and attention.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:13 am to RLDSC FAN
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 10:14 am
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:14 am to whoa
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Also, I’m in favor of kids going to school year round
I'm shocked there isn't a bigger push for year-round school. The current setup is completely antiquated.
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 10:15 am
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:14 am to RLDSC FAN
But I thought the mantra was "if it saves one life it's worth it"?
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:15 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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that don’t exclusively push kids into college
this is so tired
I believe most kids should at least "try" college. More experience and varied skills are never a negative, even if they don't graduate.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:15 am to RogerTheShrubber
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My experience in mainstreamed classrooms is that the low achievers get an incredibly inappropriate share of the resources and attention.
The only "solutions" that have been introduced are to increase funding.
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 10:16 am
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:17 am to bad93ex
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The only "solutions" that have been introduced are to increase funding.
Yep, which increases dysfunction.
Throwing money at schools did nothing to fix the problem and just allowed the problems to get kicked down the road.
Look at what Utah spends per pupil a year vs Louisiana per student
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 10:18 am
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:17 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I believe most kids should at least "try" college.
Same. I've liked the whole "free community college" thing that has been spreading.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:18 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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this is so tired It’s not a thing in 2023 outside of the few good schools/advanced programs
Have to disagree on this one. Unless things have drastically changed in the last two years.
My former district has a handful of non-college programs but overall (and it’s a societal push as well) it’s about “college and career readiness”. With far more emphasis on college.
But again, that’s also bolstered outside of schools by requiring degrees for filing papers and answering phones. It’s a bigger problem that hasn’t gone away just yet.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:18 am to GetCocky11
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Same. I've liked the whole "free community college" thing that has been spreading.
Yes. More kids should do community college first IMO
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:19 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Intelligence and social skills are declining.
Humanity is devolving.
was this the case in 1990?
you realize this might be the case across the board but your successful people that are raising successful kids....yea its the opposite.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:20 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Yes. More kids should do community college first IMO
I actually agree with you on something
Community college or some kind of 1 year apprenticeship once finished with high school. Just something lower stakes so you can figure things out a little before dropping $100k in loans on a 4 year university.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:20 am to RogerTheShrubber
I graduated about ten years ago and heard plenty of teachers talk about how college isn’t for everyone and lots of kids agreed. We were constantly told stories about people with multiple degrees being unemployed.
I think the “go to college or you’ll be a broke loser” trope that’s always repeated was more of a 90s/2000s thing.
I think the “go to college or you’ll be a broke loser” trope that’s always repeated was more of a 90s/2000s thing.
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:21 am to GetCocky11
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Same. I've liked the whole "free community college" thing that has been spreading.
Obama introduced that during his administration and that shite was shut down way too fast, I'm 100% for allowing people to retool their life by learning a trade. Hell how many people would attend night school to learn HVAC, plumbing or electrical work?
This post was edited on 6/21/23 at 10:22 am
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:22 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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I graduated about ten years ago and heard plenty of teachers talk about how college isn’t for everyone and lots of kids agreed. We were constantly told stories about people with multiple degrees being unemployed.
I think there is a pre-2008 recession and post-2008 recession line of thinking with this.
Pre-2008, it was "go to college or fail in life"
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:22 am to GetCocky11
Genetics
Posted on 6/21/23 at 10:27 am to RLDSC FAN
It’s almost like school systems kowtowing to teachers unions that wanted extended shutdowns hurt the very people they are both supposed to help: the students…
If only someone had raised a red flag on this… OH WAIT, conservative parents did and they were labeled domestic terrorists by the DOJ.
If only someone had raised a red flag on this… OH WAIT, conservative parents did and they were labeled domestic terrorists by the DOJ.
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