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re: Massive security fail on part of City of NO. And DHS as well.

Posted on 1/1/25 at 2:18 pm to
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 2:18 pm to



Whoa, that's the1st post that Ive read in this thread.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
32279 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 2:18 pm to
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nothing like this has happened before

Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
149388 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 2:19 pm to
Maybe but that’s how you do that.

Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
12484 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 2:22 pm to
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They do, but are in the process of being overhauled and updated for the Super Bowl, and many were not in place.


Ah, well that’s all time shitty timing b
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
18899 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 2:22 pm to
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wrong people are in charge


Cantrell.

Mitch.

Ray Nagin.

The list is longer.

NOLA needs to do better.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
74417 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 2:23 pm to
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Maybe but that’s how you do that.


NOLA agrees; they have had a few types of removable bollards. As explained, the movable middle bollards on Bourbon are being replaced, there are still the green bollards there.

They parked a unit in front of the missing bollards, but did miss that someone would hook a u-turn and squeeze behind where the unit was parked past several cops that were protecting the area.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
32279 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 2:23 pm to
Bro they just found out last week the Super Bowl was gonna be in Nola.

Cut them some slack!
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
38370 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 2:23 pm to
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I get that


Apparently not.


Should LSU encase the parade grounds in bollards each gameday?
Posted by R11
Member since Aug 2017
4292 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 2:24 pm to
Well does it really surprise you?
Dump city
Dump leadership
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12039 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 2:24 pm to
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so let’s say there are bollards everywhere - this guy just walks around the FQ all day planting IEDs, which he may have done How do you prevent that?


You may be shocked to learn we have a pretty robust security system with human patrols, trained dogs, security cameras being monitored and other technology (see the gun locating tech used during MG).


No one’s expecting perfection - just pointing out that blocking the street while leaving the sidewalks open is a pretty obvious half measure.

Seeing the video of how sparse the crowd was at that hour compared to earlier does begin to justify a laxing of the security presence but this attitude of we can’t stop everything so why try anything is pretty dumb
Posted by ScootiniTiger
New Orleans
Member since Mar 2007
2882 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 2:25 pm to
The nut drove around a police car onto the sidewalk...
Posted by UPT
NOLA
Member since May 2009
5733 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 2:26 pm to
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The fact any vehicle could get onto Bourbon St on NYE is insane.


You realize that they can’t block sidewalks, right? The road was blocked.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
32279 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 2:27 pm to
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You realize that they can’t block sidewalks, right? The road was blocked.

Yes. They can block sidewalks.
Posted by roadGator
Member since Feb 2009
149388 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 2:27 pm to
There are really mean access denial barriers available that can be moved from place to place.

Not having those is criminal is this case.

Pure negligence.

Hitting one immobilizes the vehicle. Takes the front wheels off the ground and you can’t back off them.
Posted by Froman
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2007
37498 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 2:28 pm to
So when has a terrorist driven over people on Bourbon Street and got out firing a gun into the crowd of people?
Posted by NoSaint
Member since Jun 2011
12039 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 2:28 pm to
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The nut drove around a police car onto the sidewalk...


To be fair we have concrete pillars on sidewalks at a variety of locations, including the courthouses not too far from this incident. A few around this intersection would not be wild.
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
10578 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 2:30 pm to
To your premise, you are correct. More could have been done to make Bourbon Street safer. This isn't what people want to hear today, but to what end? Where does it stop?

Like you and others have said, he could've achieved the same result along Canal street, or another French Quarter street, or at any of the other hundreds of mass gatherings that existed last night. In a free society, the reality is, there are hundreds if not thousands of target rich environments for wackos with a vehicle.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
74417 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 2:30 pm to
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There are really mean access denial barriers available that can be moved from place to place.


Bourbon Street has them. They are upgrading them. Hence why the squad car was in place.
Posted by dkreller
Laffy
Member since Jan 2009
32279 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 2:31 pm to
Oh I’m sorry I didn’t realize you were intentionally ignoring other very similar, if not exact type scenarios that have happened across the globe. But it’s never happened in Nola so nobody should expect Nola leadership to do frick all.
Posted by GreenRockTiger
vortex to the whirlpool of despair
Member since Jun 2020
52943 posts
Posted on 1/1/25 at 2:32 pm to
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You may be shocked to learn we have a pretty robust security system with human patrols, trained dogs, security cameras being monitored and other technology (see the gun locating tech used during MG).
lol I’m from New Orleans you stupid dip shite

All of that shite isn’t going to stop a nut driving through the crowd
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