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re: Mass shooting on Vegas Strip discussion
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:46 pm to slackster
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:46 pm to slackster
I don't thinking a coincidence he had 12 bump stocks and fired 12 volleys, btw.
Especially not with the "some of the guns were jammed" quote from the sherriff.
Especially not with the "some of the guns were jammed" quote from the sherriff.
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:47 pm to 13SaintTiger
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I buy it. Why not? She voluntarily flew back to the states
I mean she can fly back voluntarily and play dumb, or get extradited back and get thrown to the top of the suspect/accomplice list...choice seems like an easy one.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:47 pm to slackster
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From what I can understand, that group held off and waited for a SWAT team to arrive before breaching the door.
Apparently SWAT cleared other rooms before breaching paddock's room.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:47 pm to momentoftruth87
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Doesn't matter but interesting to see if the room was comp.
It was.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:48 pm to slackster
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And you have to talk to everyone he called, emailed, etc. It takes time to track those people down. Those people may say Paddock spoke to so and so, then you have to track that lead down, etc.
I'd be skeptical if they came out and said he acted alone at this point. There is no way they could have exhausted all leads by now.
Exactly- grab his phone and it's all Dylan Roof style searching on there, your narrative comes together quick.
Phones boring, you search computer. Computer is boring you start looking at friends, other computers he had access to. Property he owned in different states. Who he bought the guns from. His girlfriend. Still nothing? Money trail. Old travel from years ago. All the cameras in the city you can find. Still nothing?
Well, you better double check it all for any last possible ideas before saying "all good, just a sketchy dude"
Finding something can be quick. Eliminating everything is slow.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:48 pm to The Pirate King
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I mean she can fly back voluntarily and play dumb, or get extradited back and get thrown to the top of the suspect/accomplice list...choice seems like an easy one.
Shitty getaway play, don't you think? Nothing in that statement smelt of "playing dumb". She didn't even have to give a statement
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:48 pm to The Pirate King
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The way Vegas is setup, there’s tons of ingress points for each hotel.
it's like no hotel I've ever seen before. I was at the Venetian for a week, and even by the end of the week I was still getting lost easily.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:48 pm to The Pirate King
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Saw them play that clip from her lawyer. Not sure I buy the “I knew nothing” card. From what was said, he had been amassing 33 guns since 10/2016. She lived with him at multiple homes.
I don't think she knew anything about his intentions, even if she knew he was buying guns. My reasoning for that is the $100k wire. This guy had other assets that could have been liquidated and given to her, but he didn't do so. If she was in on the plan, surely she would have gotten more in her name before he pulled the trigger.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:48 pm to 13SaintTiger
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I buy it. Why not? She voluntarily flew back to the states
ya, agreed.
if she was an accomplice theyd know by now
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:48 pm to rocket31
Paddock was her sugar daddy.
He wanted her out of the country when he did this.
She's clean as far as I can tell.
Even if he owned many guns it's not a red flag. I know plenty of people who collect AR's and other types of guns.
Not that she would even know that.
Still doesn't answer the question as to why a quiet, upstanding citizen would go on a rampage like this.
He wanted her out of the country when he did this.
She's clean as far as I can tell.
Even if he owned many guns it's not a red flag. I know plenty of people who collect AR's and other types of guns.
Not that she would even know that.
Still doesn't answer the question as to why a quiet, upstanding citizen would go on a rampage like this.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:49 pm to slackster
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They won't. Getting the guns up to the room is no more difficult than getting my wife's shite up to the room.
Exactly.
So why do people, especially the tinfoil hat crowd, keep hammering on this?
Does it seem strange that one guy would bring a bunch of luggage up to the room? Maybe. But no hotel employee is going to question a guest unless, MAYBE, if other guests start reporting it as unusual.
And something tells me that most people in Vegas are minding their own business and not worried about what another guest is bringing to their room.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:50 pm to Cowboyfan89
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So why do people, especially the tinfoil hat crowd, keep hammering on this?
no one ITT is, or at least hasnt been for awhile
you are arguing with yourself.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 8:51 pm
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:51 pm to rocket31
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if she was an accomplice theyd know by now
Yea, the statement puts to rest the "she's isis" theory. If she was isis she would've owned it.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:51 pm to rocket31
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- she denies knowing anything
- she was wired money while in Philippines to buy a home for her and her family - she thought he was "breaking up with her"..
She cant be believed or not believed though. Could be the truth, could be what anyone would plan to say.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:51 pm to NoSaint
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Finding something can be quick. Eliminating everything is slow.
Omar Mateen called 911 as he was shooting people in Pulse. Not all of these cases are as simple though.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:51 pm to Cowboyfan89
I can’t understand this odd obsession with how he got the guns up there.
Have people never stayed at a large convention hotel?
Hell just today I was at a large NYC hotel for a meeting. Two people checked in with 6 suitcases while I was killing time in the lobby.
This happens every single day, multiple times, at these hotels.
Have people never stayed at a large convention hotel?
Hell just today I was at a large NYC hotel for a meeting. Two people checked in with 6 suitcases while I was killing time in the lobby.
This happens every single day, multiple times, at these hotels.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:51 pm to momentoftruth87
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Doesn't matter but interesting
If it doesn't matter it isn't interesting at all, is it?
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:52 pm to jcaz
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Still doesn't answer the question as to why a quiet, upstanding citizen would go on a rampage like this.
Exactly. If he planned this for that long, something didn't just snap in him
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:52 pm to jlntiger
Very common theme in murder cases. Don't want to scare potential accomplices into hiding.
Posted on 10/4/17 at 8:52 pm to Gnar Cat21
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it's like no hotel I've ever seen before. I was at the Venetian for a week, and even by the end of the week I was still getting lost easily.
Same here - I went for a week about a year ago. The underground mall, streets, walkways, and transportation system are really complex, especially if you’ve been drinking. Point is, that it’s not like he was walking through the lobby of the bates motel with 23 guns by one check-in clerk
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