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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:18 pm to
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:18 pm to
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Not necessarily if you are criminally mentally ill.



meh, even if its an irrational motive, i still think there's always some way some how to get to a motive.
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:20 pm to
Girlfriend came home from the Philippines in a wheelchair....will be interesting to hear what that could be about. Mental stress has her worn out? CIA beat her up? She's playing the frail old woman card?
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:22 pm to
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Not necessarily if you are criminally mentally ill.


Well I'm not convinced that he's criminally mentally ill at all. By definition, the person would not appreciate the nature or quality or wrongfulness of the acts.

Do you honestly believe that this guy didn't appreciate the nature, and quality? And didn't believe what he was doing was wrong?

If he did, then he in fact was not criminally mentally ill.
Posted by Tyga Woods
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:23 pm to
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Girlfriend came home from the Philippines in a wheelchair....will be interesting to hear what that could be about. Mental stress has her worn out? CIA beat her up? She's playing the frail old woman card?


I think it was either the FBI's way of protecting her OR they wanted to put her into custody without letting the media find out.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 12:24 pm
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:24 pm to
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Do you honestly believe that this guy didn't appreciate the nature, and quality? And didn't believe what he was doing was wrong?


No, but then again, I am one of the Abu Sayyaf/ISIS conspiracy theorists
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:25 pm to
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OR they wanted to put her into custody without letting the media find out.


Yes, hard to walk with cuffs and not have it known, but you can throw a blanket over her in the wheelchair. Imagine you'll initially see her with a bullet proof vest when we do.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:26 pm to
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I am one of the Abu Sayyaf/ISIS conspiracy theorists

What's up with that theory?
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:28 pm to
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No

Well, I don't believe for a second that this guy didn't know what he was doing was wrong. And even specifically planned to obtain the highest quality and nature of murder.
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but then again, I am one of the Abu Sayyaf/ISIS conspiracy theorists

If true, that would seem to be even more of an argument that he wasn't criminally insane. I'm trying to understand specifically your reasoning for thinking that he was criminally mentally ill.
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:31 pm to
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What's up with that theory?


-Abu Sayyaf is a muslim terrorist group since the 70s in the Philippines.

-They are pledged to ISIS in the grand scheme of things.

-Killer's lady is a Filipina woman (w/Australian citizenship as well) who has travelled the world and been a high stakes poker hostess in places like Dubai, where money to finance terrorism freely flows.

-She is radical, and gets with this apple pie American guy to turn on his country and commit an act in their name

This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 12:34 pm
Posted by Tiger in NY
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:32 pm to
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If true, that would seem to be even more of an argument that he wasn't criminally insane. I'm trying to understand specifically your reasoning for thinking that he was criminally mentally ill.


I don't. I was answering the original question simply that a criminally insane person may not purposely leave their motive unknown.

I think this guy's motive will ultimately be well known.
This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 12:33 pm
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:34 pm to
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I think it was either the FBI's way of protecting her OR they wanted to put her into custody without letting the media find out.




as well as moving her swiftly
Posted by TigerFred
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:35 pm to
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Girlfriend came home from the Philippines in a wheelchair..


Didn't hear that.

Long flight maybe she was spending a lot of time enjoying the mile high club.
Posted by Festus
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:35 pm to
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I don't. I was answering the original question simply that a criminally insane person may not purposely leave their motive unknown.

I think this guy's motive will ultimately be well known.

Yeah, I'm thinking so too. If what Fred said is correct, then it sounds like the investigating authorities might be on to something. I sure hope so. I don't know why, but I really want to know the "why" behind this.

And I get it, some people are just evil, and there is a lot of evil in this world. No doubt, this guy is one of them. But to go to this extreme? There has to be more to it than he's just an evil dude.
Posted by Walt OReilly
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:36 pm to
Hopefully CIA beat the frick out if her
Posted by Chad504boy
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:36 pm to
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Didn't hear that.


there's a few second video.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:37 pm to
This is Jack Beaton who was killed in the shooting. He looks like Ed Orgeron.

Posted by The Mick
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:37 pm to
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Hopefully CIA beat the frick out if her
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:43 pm to
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She is radical

Is she?

What has she done/said that leads people to believe she's a radical?
Posted by When in Rome
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:47 pm to
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Girlfriend came home from the Philippines in a wheelchair..
quote:

Didn't hear that.
here ya go - nbc news

quote:

Marilou Danley landed at Los Angeles International Airport late Tuesday on a flight from her native Philippines and was quickly hustled off in a wheelchair by FBI agents.

There's also a video of her in the wheelchair on that link.

This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 12:49 pm
Posted by TigerFred
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Posted on 10/4/17 at 12:49 pm to
I believe it. Just didn't hear about it. Thanks for the link.

ETA:

I have been through LAX so many times and the wait is horrible at immigration that I wished I ad a wheelchair.

This post was edited on 10/4/17 at 12:51 pm
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