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Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:53 pm to
Posted by Havoc
Member since Nov 2015
39389 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:53 pm to
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quote: The point there being that dead men tell no tales.

you're such a badass

What in the hell are you even talking about? I didn't say anything about me.
Posted by couv1217
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2007
3580 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:53 pm to
Someone on Facebook just posted a video and pictures showing the 32nd floor window a smashed out but then show two separate videos where you can see flashes from the 32nd and about the 10th floor. Interesting.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:53 pm to
Posted by Golfer
Member since Nov 2005
75052 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:54 pm to
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He didn't say whether he fired after that or what caused him to stop. I'm not sure when he was engaged by the security guard/officer.


The first officer on the 32nd floor was there in about 10 minutes. He enountered the injured security guard.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45151 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:54 pm to
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A lot of terror experts were surprised ISIS was so adamant about claiming this on multiple occasions.
Retired FBI on fox last night said ISIS doesn't usually claim responsibility if they weren't involved. He said they're known to exaggerate but not outright claim things they had nothing to do with. He also thought it was extremely suspicious the GF happened to be out of the country.
Posted by rocket31
Member since Jan 2008
41887 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:54 pm to
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Someone on Facebook
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91855 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:54 pm to
quote:

Someone on Facebook just posted a video and pictures showing the 32nd floor window a smashed out but then show two separate videos where you can see flashes from the 32nd and about the 10th floor. Interesting.


Let me spare you the coming ridicule. There were no windows broken other than the two on the 32nd floor. Those flashes toward the middle of the building have been going on for a few days now.
Posted by The Mick
Member since Oct 2010
45151 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:55 pm to
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ReauxlTide222


Dude
Posted by couv1217
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Sep 2007
3580 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:55 pm to
Yea it was someone. I didn't know who the person was.

So those flashes have been discussed already? Gotcha. Didn't feel like reading through all of this to find out. Thanks
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72169 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:56 pm to
The banning crowd fully understands that banning things makes people want them more. These are the same folks that understand fully what the war on drugs has accomplished- nothing. You're not enlightened or privy to some special news.

But if you're going to use the drug example, I'll use one as well. Just because the product is available over the counter to make meth, and I could feasibly do it seeing as how I own my home, does that mean meth should be able to be sold at your local drug store? Of course not. You want meth, you'll have to take the risks of making it, and if you're caught, you go to jail.

And again, I own a lot of guns. But I could see where someone can make an argument for some of these additions to guns shouldn't be legal. I also see why many think they shouldn't be. I'm simply saying it doesn't bother me either way.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 4:00 pm
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91855 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:56 pm to
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I didn’t think this had anything to do with Islam but I’m officially starting to think it’s a real possibility.


One thing for sure - if there is an Islamic tie to this shooting, Trump's twitter feed will be the first to tell you.
This post was edited on 10/3/17 at 4:01 pm
Posted by TigerFred
Feeding hamsters
Member since Aug 2003
27881 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:57 pm to
Recap of Conference by memory as he is speaking. Don't get mad if I missed something.

First part is on victims
3 victims still unidentified
Provided info on families and friends to reconnect.
Gave information to people to contact LSVPD about providing info.
Las Vegas Boulevard to reopen in the next few hours
Many people inquiring about personal property that is inside of the Route 91 scene. Will provide information on retrieval of that property in the few hours.

Now talking about the donations and distribution of donations.


Second part addressing the investigation.

ATF is investigating the weapons, type and styles.

Question coming from press that are inaudible. A lot of information that he knows but is saying he doesn't know because the investigation is ongoing.

There are injuries that are from trampling and escaping and gunshot wounds.

Doesn't know exact whereabouts of girlfriend. Only that she is in Philippines.

Troubled about how the photographs have been obtained by public.

There were cameras inside and outside of the room. Me speculating that he is meaning set up by gunman. Can't hear the questions from audience.

FBI has possession of all of the digital media.

He gets frustrated with the questions because the audience doesn't let him finish before bombarding with other questions.

Couldn't imagine this situation. Felt they had the proper response.

Received initial report of between floors 29-32. While evaluating they received info that he was on 32.

Some died after being shot and ran away.

Very heroic acts by normal citizens.

Obviously premeditated.

Has some information but not at liberty to talk about.

Wished he had some of the audience on his investigation team. Laughed about it and said he confirmed. Did not hear the question.

Evaluating the police body cameras and the common place cameras

It takes time to evaluate everything. Evidentuary chain of custody takes time. Investigation may bring criminal charges.

Don't get frustrated if he doesn't have press conference very 5 minutes.

Done answering questions.

Anticipating a 5:00 update.
Posted by TakingStock
Member since Jun 2009
7507 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:57 pm to
quote:

Retired FBI on fox last night said ISIS doesn't usually claim responsibility if they weren't involved. He said they're known to exaggerate but not outright claim things they had nothing to do with. He also thought it was extremely suspicious the GF happened to be out of the country.


Exactly, not to mention she's from a country known to be a hotbed of terrorist activity.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72169 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:58 pm to
Awesome post, thank you
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
91855 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 3:59 pm to
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So those flashes have been discussed already? Gotcha. Didn't feel like reading through all of this to find out. Thanks


Yes, they have. Nothing of note, apparently some kind of reflection or other light source. No problem.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
91799 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

Sheriff seems like he knows quite a bit more than he's saying (obviously). Won't confirm most questions/theories being presented.
The way he said it was very interesting. Also, terms he chose after saying it were interesting.

It seemed like he miiiiiiight not be sure this was simply a "normal" guy having a bad 6 months or so. And he was a bit more stern with how he explained what they're doing with Marilou.
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
52632 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:01 pm to
I thought the Philippines was mainly Christian but doing a little digging it has become an area where new cells have started to pop up.
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
72169 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:02 pm to
it's good to know they are confident in uncovering motive. Hopefully we have more answers before the weekend.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30966 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:02 pm to
His brother gave a second interview just before the sheriff's interview. The brother used terms like "father-figure," "cool rich guy," "paid for everything", "intelligent" and said he wanted his kids to have a relationship with their uncle. He finished up saying this is not the brother he knew and something changed recently to "send him into this hell." Said his heart pours for the victims and he'd have a funeral for the killer only so they can spit on his casket and hopefully find emotional relief from what his brother did. Says he has 4 kids of his own. I can't find a link right now, but I think they're editing it because he was swearing throughout. It was live on CBS homepage.
Posted by Chad504boy
4 posts
Member since Feb 2005
179383 posts
Posted on 10/3/17 at 4:03 pm to
between a note and video footage and possibly other electronic data collected, hard to fathom there's no motive at this point.
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