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re: Marksville City Marshals......Breaking two officers charged with murder
Posted on 11/5/15 at 11:11 am to NYNolaguy1
Posted on 11/5/15 at 11:11 am to NYNolaguy1
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Besides, only criminals operating under the guise of rights disobey police orders (consent searches, etc.)
Because no cop has EVER illegally stop, detained, or issued an unlawful order before...
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Posted on 11/5/15 at 11:13 am to MeauxMoney
He wasn't being serious
Posted on 11/5/15 at 11:13 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Seeing that these were City Marshals
How often is this the case? This isn't what everyone is bitching about...sure this case is bad but this is being lumped in with all cops
Posted on 11/5/15 at 11:16 am to Topwater Trout
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How often is this the case? This isn't what everyone is bitching about...sure this case is bad but this is being lumped in with all cops
Many municipalities have changed the way patrol officers deal with perps. Anchorage PD changed their regulations two years ago when two unarmed people were shot and killed on camera. If the cameras had not been running, I doubt the rules would ever have been changed.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 11:17 am to Strannix
that explains the 6,933 cop cars i saw racing down hwy 1 yesterday
Posted on 11/5/15 at 11:19 am to RogerTheShrubber
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City Marshals
City cops doing OT work as Marshalls
Posted on 11/5/15 at 11:19 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Many municipalities have changed the way patrol officers deal with perps.
Does that mean that situation will never happen again in Anchorage? I don't. People make mistakes and no amount of training or policies will prevent that.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 11:20 am to Topwater Trout
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ah so you are one of the dumbasses that doesn't pay attention to these shootings by police. You just ignore what you have read or heard and won't apply it to a real life situation...then you will get shot and think...I didn't see that coming
Negative, Im pretty by the book these days but I have been in situations where cops overstepped their constitutional limitations and then staged the scene to favor them later. I have attorneys in the family so it was not a problem for me but I appreciate, unlike you, how many citizens could have their lives severely upended for doing nothing more than enjoying the protections which our forefathers fought and died for and which are explicit in the Constitution of the United States which just so happens to be the supreme fricking law of the land you moronic fascist.
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No way! This is about being sensible when having interactions with police. I will not make any sudden movements or try to escape. Call me a survivor.
You may find this hard to believe but there are other people in this country and all may not have the same supreme intellect and savvy when dealing with the police as you. Some are even 6 year old children who had the audacity to ride with his dad who made a poor choice when confronted with a highly stressful situation.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 11:21 am to Robin Masters
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If I don't comply with an officer I am putting my life in danger?
I like to think of this process as Darwinism. Eventually the noncompliant get thinned from the herd.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 11:22 am to NYNolaguy1
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I like to think of this process as Darwinism. Eventually the noncompliant get thinned from the herd.
Or go on to found the greatest country the world has ever known.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 11:24 am to Topwater Trout
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Does that mean that situation will never happen again in Anchorage? I don't. People make mistakes and no amount of training or policies will prevent that.
It hasn't happened since.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 11:24 am to Robin Masters
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Or go on to found the greatest country the world has ever known
I guess English won't be the language
Posted on 11/5/15 at 11:26 am to RogerTheShrubber
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It hasn't happened since.
how many times did it happen prior to the policies being changed?
Posted on 11/5/15 at 11:28 am to Robin Masters
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Or go on to found the greatest country the world has ever known.
Are you really comparing the police to British soldiers?
I think it's rather insulting to the founders to compare this dindunothin to them. Or is every criminal a hero now?
Posted on 11/5/15 at 11:29 am to Topwater Trout
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This is about being sensible when having interactions with police. I will not make any sudden movements or try to escape. Call me a survivor.
To be fair, sensibly declining to entertain a cops questions typically does not end with the cop responding sensibly. Have you ever seen how bent out of a shape a cop gets when someone declines permission to search or declines to stop and have a chat on the street?
lets be honest, if you get stopped for driving 67 in a 65 and decline the cop permission to search your care, do you honestly believe he is just going to let it go? The chances of him walking away border on zero. You're going to get hassled.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 11:31 am to NYNolaguy1
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Are you really comparing the police to British soldiers?
I think it's rather insulting to the founders to compare this dindunothin to them. Or is every criminal a hero now?
No, actually you did when you said "eventually all noncompliant people will be thinned from the herd."
Posted on 11/5/15 at 11:33 am to Barf
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You're going to get hassled.
That's one response. The other is to just let him do his job.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 11:34 am to Topwater Trout
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It hasn't happened since.
how many times did it happen prior to the policies being changed?
Not sure. Enough to where APD felt it needed to change it's policies.
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 11:35 am
Posted on 11/5/15 at 11:39 am to NYNolaguy1
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That's one response. The other is to just let him do his job.
His job is to violate our 4th amendment rights? Wow, who knew?
Posted on 11/5/15 at 11:41 am to Salamander_Wilson
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Believing that running away from police doesn't warrant being shot at when you are not a violent criminal makes me "what's wrong with this country"?
why would you ever run from the police? You should know what type of situation you've put yourself in the moment you start running.
What happened when you did something wrong as a kid and tried covering up or running away from the mistake? harsher consequences than if you had just manned up to your mistake. (assuming you were caught).
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Why is it a policeman's job to institute corporal punishment?
Why is it a policeman's job to risk his life and wait until the last possible moment, which may be too late, of an action being life threatening before acting upon it?
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The fact is, this guy was not a danger to society
Driving your vehicle while running from police is a danger to society. Trying to run over cop cars with your car, is dangerous.
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Now if he had opened fire on the officers, it's a different story.
so they have to wait until they get fired upon? is that the only thing that's life threatening? Is that how you react when someone breaks into your house? do you wait for them to show you a gun before you shoot them?
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There job is to protect the public and detain criminals without putting anyone in harm.
They did do that. The criminal is who put his child in harms way, and you know as well as i do, that had they known a child was in there, they would have never shot into the vehicle.
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