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re: Marksville City Marshals......Breaking two officers charged with murder
Posted on 11/5/15 at 3:18 pm to Topwater Trout
Posted on 11/5/15 at 3:18 pm to Topwater Trout
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case solved...file charges against the cops
Look, I stand by my earlier comment that I don't think the cops will ever face a petit jury. I am just pointing out the facts as I see them. That quote came from the coroner fwiw.
That downvote didn't come from me either...
Posted on 11/5/15 at 3:21 pm to NYNolaguy1
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That downvote didn't come from me either...
I don't care about downvotes
I just tend to be more pissed off that the dad would put his child in danger....before the cops made a mistake
Posted on 11/5/15 at 3:33 pm to Topwater Trout
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I wonder if this is accurate. If someone is trying to run over innocent bystanders or other cops I guess these departments are ok with it...do not try to protect and serve just sit back and watch.
Its my understanding the Marshals were in a vehicle that got hit white the guy was trying to escape, not trying to run over anyone. They then jumped out and shot him.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 3:41 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Its my understanding the Marshals were in a vehicle that got hit white the guy was trying to escape, not trying to run over anyone. They then jumped out and shot him.
My comment wasn't pertaining to this case in particular but more to the word "ban" in regards to shooting into vehicles. Ban is a strong word. What are the consequences if they break the ban? criminal charges?
Posted on 11/5/15 at 3:55 pm to Topwater Trout
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My comment wasn't pertaining to this case in particular but more to the word "ban" in regards to shooting into vehicles. Ban is a strong word. What are the consequences if they break the ban? criminal charges?
I have no idea. Imagine that would depend on the department.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 4:16 pm to Strannix
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Keep defending the actions that resulted in a 6 year old autistic child getting his head blown off by cops playing Rambo, it shows everyone who you are, it's amazing they haven't even been interviewed yet.
so are all cops to assume there's a 6 year old autistic child in every vehicle trying to run now?
What happens when they don't stop the lunatic running from them and he runs over a 6 year old autistic kid? Is that going to be the cops fault for not stopping him sooner, in a non lethal way of course?
Posted on 11/5/15 at 4:23 pm to Topwater Trout
My point all along is that "imminent threat" is almost like a moving target. It is not a snapshot moment and then the officers have full discretion from that moment on.
Will an officer ever be justified in shooting into a vehicle without verifying whether innocent passengers are inside? My answer is yes, but there would have to be extreme circumstances to justify it (see ClientNumber9's hypothetical where a person is in an alley way with no possible escape and a car hurling towards you at 70mph).
Will an officer ever be justified in shooting into a vehicle without verifying whether innocent passengers are inside? My answer is yes, but there would have to be extreme circumstances to justify it (see ClientNumber9's hypothetical where a person is in an alley way with no possible escape and a car hurling towards you at 70mph).
Posted on 11/5/15 at 4:28 pm to TeddyPadillac
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What happens when they don't stop the lunatic running from them and he runs over a 6 year old autistic kid? Is that going to be the cops fault for not stopping him sooner, in a non lethal way of course?
Of course it wouldn't be the cops fault. Want to know what will happen after that?
Absolutely nothing.
I wouldn't sweat it- I mean if you don't see really visible backlash after SWAT killing a 7 year old girl in Michigan, or a 6 year old in Louisiana, or flashbanging and maiming an 11 month old baby in Georgia, I think you can rest assured nothing will happen there either.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 4:28 pm to Poodlebrain
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Was the 6 year-old in a child safety seat? If not, I think it gives you some idea of the father's concern for the child's welfare, a
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Poodlebrain
Holy Christ are you for real?
Posted on 11/5/15 at 4:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Many police departments, however, ban their officers from shooting at moving vehicles, arguing that it makes situations more dangerous for the officers as well as bystanders.
This is incorrect.
Most if not all police departments ban shooting at moving vehicles UNLESS lethal action is justified.
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 4:53 pm
Posted on 11/5/15 at 5:04 pm to Robin Masters
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I'd have to drive and if I pulled into the parking lot with my car they might feel threatened and I'd hate to give them an excuse to kill my children.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:17 pm to LNCHBOX
So at first we were told that the father was driving the car at the the cops and that they were serving a warrant. For a while they were saying the father was shooting back at them.
State police said they found no evidence of any of the bullshite that the Marksville City officials put out there. The state police couldn't find any warrant, so if they did find one it was for a minor offense - likely traffic tickets. They couldn't find any evidence that the vehicle backed into anything. They found hat bullets came from the side and that 5 or 6 bullets hit the little boy. They did not find a gun on the father nor did they find any gunshot residue.
Why do we just shrug it off when our local government law enforcement entities straight up lies about everything? Its become a common occurrence now.
State police said they found no evidence of any of the bullshite that the Marksville City officials put out there. The state police couldn't find any warrant, so if they did find one it was for a minor offense - likely traffic tickets. They couldn't find any evidence that the vehicle backed into anything. They found hat bullets came from the side and that 5 or 6 bullets hit the little boy. They did not find a gun on the father nor did they find any gunshot residue.
Why do we just shrug it off when our local government law enforcement entities straight up lies about everything? Its become a common occurrence now.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:24 pm to Asgard Device
Did he even hit the cop car? I haven't heard that much so far, I'm sure the Rambo cops feel like badasses now.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:33 pm to Strannix
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Did he even hit the cop car?
No! The state police found no evidence of any sort of contact with the victim's car. The state police aren't some podunk police department that is fine with lying about everything. They're going to gather the evidence and present it whether its favorable or unfavorable.
Pretty pathetic of these marshals.
Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:40 pm to TeddyPadillac
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What happens when they don't stop the lunatic running from them and he runs over a 6 year old autistic kid? Is that going to be the cops fault for not stopping him sooner, in a non lethal way of course?
Is it not obvious? He'll stop running and driving recklessly the minute he feels like he got away. They'll get off like cops always do when they should probably be locked away for murder.
This post was edited on 11/5/15 at 10:42 pm
Posted on 11/5/15 at 10:51 pm to Langston
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Langston wrote: The fact he rammed into their car changes everything in this situation.
State police found no evidence that the car bumped into anything, much less rammed into anything.
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Btrtigerfan wrote: I'm waiting to hear what he was being pursued for.
State police couldn't find any warrants out for the guy. Maybe there was one for an unpaid fine. As if that matters. You sure love and blindly trust your government.
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What's more simple is the dad should not get into a pursuit with his child in the car. He should also not try to ram officers chasing him with said child in the car. But you're right, it's the cops' fault.
What? What makes you think that the dad tried to ram officers? There's zero evidence of that! The bullets came from the side.
Officers have thus far refused to interview with state police. No doubt getting their stories straight, first. There's body cams from this incident, btw. State police are trying to get ahold of the footage. It will come out.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:15 am to Asgard Device
This has the potential to be epically bad for the Marksville Marshals...
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wo days after 6-year-old Jeremy Mardis was accidentally shot and killed at the tail-end of a police pursuit, many are still confused about exactly what happened on Martin Luther King Drive in Marksville, LA.
During a 2 p.m. news conference on Thursday, Louisiana State Police Col. Mike Edmonson said no gun was found in the vehicle the Ward 2 City Marshal deputies were chasing that resulted in the death of a 6-year-old boy. The shooting happened Tuesday, Nov. 3, 2015 around 9:30 p.m.
Officials say the child was shot five times during the shootout.
Dr. L.J. Mayeux, coroner of Avoyelles Parish, said the father of the victim, Chris Few, had warrants out for his arrest. Ward 2 City Marshal deputies reportedly spotted Few's vehicle on Washington Street and initiated a stop. Instead of pulling over, officials say Few led deputies on a chase through Marksville, finally turning down Martin Luther King Drive, which is a dead end street.
Parish investigators initially said marshals were chasing Chris Few because of an outstanding warrant. However, WAFB checked with the Clerk of Court, the District Attorney's Office, Marksville Police Department and City Court and we did not find any outstanding warrants. Col. Mike Edmonson says so far, their investigation shows the same.
"I am not aware of one but I have not been provided with anything that says otherwise," he said.
Mayeux added Few backed into the marshal's vehicle several times and would not get out and that is when the gunfire erupted. Officials initially stated there was an exchange of gunfire during the incident Tuesday night. As of Thursday afternoon, officials are now saying a gun was not found in Few's vehicle.
At last report, Few was listed in critical condition.
Col. Edmonson says there is also no evidence, at this time, that Few backed into the deputy's vehicle. Investigators are reviewing at least one piece of video that shows part of the gunfire. A source tells WAFB that video is from a police body camera one of the officers was wearing.
Col. Edmonson says the Louisiana State Police was contacted shortly after the shooting. For the first 12 to 15 hours, investigators were in a forensic mode - investigating the trajectory of the bullets fired.
During the initial investigation, the Marksville Police Chief stated there were four officers involved. Three of them worked full time for the Marksville Police Department, one worked as a Reserve Officer for the Marksville Police Department. Three of the officers were moonlighting as Ward 2 City Marshals, a fourth officer was called in as backup with the Marksville Police Department. The problem is, the police chief and mayor did not know their officers picked up the part-time jobs with the City Marshal's office until about three months ago.
Marksville Mayor John Lemoine sent a request to the Louisiana Attorney General's Office in September, concerned about the City Marshal's deputies. The letter, in part, read:
We have reason to believe that the Ward 2 Marshal is issuing tickets inside the city limits without consent or approval of the Marksville City Council.
"If we could have done anything to prevent it we would have but like I said, it wasn't our deputies. It wasn't our deputies who were on duty at the time for Marksville. You will need to talk to the Ward 2 Marshal," said Mayor Lemoine.
However, Ward 2 Marshal Floyd Voinche was not at Thursday's news conference. He has declined on-camera interviews, but did tell WAFB by phone his marshals only work 17 hours in a month, and at least three of the four will not be coming back to work until the investigation is over.
According to Col. Edmonson, officers involved in any officer-involved shooting are given a "day or two to rest and get sleep" before being interviewed for the investigation. As of 2:45 p.m. Thursday, the officers involved had not been interviewed. There is a question if the City Marshals had jurisdiction at the time of the shooting.
The officers are not on leave at this time, but LSP officials recommends the officers be placed on administrative leave, "but it will be up to the chief." The names of the officers have not been released.
Jeremy Mardis was a first grader at Lafarue Elementary School in Effie.
Louisiana State Police currently is heading the investigation. There is no word if Few is facing any charges at this time
This post was edited on 11/6/15 at 2:16 am
Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:29 am to NYNolaguy1
wow. they are so fricked.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 2:56 am to Ellis Dee
This just gets worse and worse, basically it looks like a ticket writing operation gone wrong, the lawsuit could cost taxpayers millions.
Posted on 11/6/15 at 6:02 am to NYNolaguy1
Why allow them a day or 2 of rest before being interviewed? That is shady as hell
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