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Management Consulting
Posted on 3/24/25 at 8:38 pm
Posted on 3/24/25 at 8:38 pm
Anyone here worked in management consulting at McKinsey Bain or BCG specifically? Share your experiences? Positives and negatives?
Thanks.
Thanks.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 8:40 pm to Epicenter1
Management consulting aka professional grifter?
Posted on 3/24/25 at 8:40 pm to Epicenter1
quote:
McKinsey
Is cancer.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 8:40 pm to Epicenter1
I once worked in Consultant Managing. It’s a similar field.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 8:42 pm to Epicenter1
Just make sure in your sales pitch that you spend 20 minutes talking about what doesn't work in management. If they want to know what works they gotta pay for the class.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 8:45 pm to Narax
Care to elaborate? We recently started using them.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 8:46 pm to Epicenter1
ABC
Always
Be
Closing
Or no coffee for you.
Always
Be
Closing
Or no coffee for you.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 8:50 pm to Epicenter1
Before I tell you I have to ask: what is your morning routine like?
Posted on 3/24/25 at 8:54 pm to undkeith
quote:
Care to elaborate? We recently started using them.
They brought DEI to my company it was about 10 years ago.
They have a pretty famous study that's completely bullshite.
It claimed that companies that hired diverse people did better.
They helped the company set up a way to get 50% female leaders in a 25% female company. (It never suceeded).
It just created a swarm of female directors who have shite for experience and can't do basic math.
None of them can code worth shite, but they were all targeted.
All young and thin too...
Which I blame more on the males who hired them.
Might as well put a sign on the building of fat chicks need not apply.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 8:55 pm to Epicenter1
What do you want to know? In short, a lot of travel, a lot of hours, a lot of money
Posted on 3/24/25 at 8:59 pm to Epicenter1
I did not work for those firms, but did work for one of the big four. 80% of what we did was complete and total bullshite.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 8:59 pm to Narax
quote:
It just created a swarm of female directors
quote:
All young and thin too...
quote:
Might as well put a sign on the building of fat chicks need not apply.

Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:03 pm to Epicenter1
Yes. Right now.
Love it.
Love it.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:08 pm to Epicenter1
McKinsey came to the company I worked for back about 2002.
They recommended a bunch of shite that we already knew wouldn't work. I don't know how much money they grifted. I don't remember any of it making an impact.
That is anecdotal of course.
They recommended a bunch of shite that we already knew wouldn't work. I don't know how much money they grifted. I don't remember any of it making an impact.
That is anecdotal of course.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:16 pm to RohanGonzales
1. Draw a Venn diagram
Getting up and drawing a Venn diagram is a great way to appear smart. It doesn’t matter if your Venn diagram is wildly inaccurate, in fact, the more inaccurate the better. Even before you’ve put that marker down, your colleagues will begin fighting about what exactly the labels should be and how big the circles should be, etc. At this point, you can slink back to your chair and go back to playing Candy Crush on your phone.
2. Translate percentage metrics into fractions
If someone says “About 25% of all users click on this button,” quickly chime in with, “So about 1 in 4,” and make a note of it. Everyone will nod their head in agreement, secretly impressed and envious of your quick math skills.
3. Encourage everyone to “take a step back”
There comes a point in most meetings where everyone is chiming in, except you. Opinions and data and milestones are being thrown around and you don’t know your CTA from your OTA. This is a great point to go, “Guys, guys, guys, can we take a step back here?” Everyone will turn their heads toward you, amazed at your ability to silence the fray. Follow it up with a quick, “What problem are we really trying to solve?” and, boom! You’ve bought yourself another hour of looking smart.
4. Nod continuously while pretending to take notes
Always bring a notepad with you. Your rejection of technology will be revered. Take notes by simply writing down one word from every sentence that you hear. Nod continuously while doing so. If someone asks you if you’re taking notes, quickly say that these are your own personal notes and that someone else should really be keeping a record of the meeting. Bravo compadre. You’ve saved your arse, and you’ve gotten out of doing any extra work. Or any work at all, if you’re truly succeeding.
5. Repeat the last thing the engineer said, but very very slowly
Make a mental note of the engineer in the room. Remember their name. They’ll be quiet throughout most of the meeting, but when their moment comes everything out of their mouth will spring from a place of unknowable brilliance. After they utters these divine words, chime in with, “Let me just repeat that,” and repeat exactly what the engineer just said, but very, very slowly. Now, that engineer’s brilliance has been transferred to you. People will look back on the meeting and mistakenly attribute the intelligent statement to you.
6. Ask “Will this scale?” no matter what it is
It’s important to find out if things will scale no matter what it is you’re discussing. No one even really knows what that means, but it’s a good catch-all question that generally applies and drives engineers nuts.
7. Pace around the room
Whenever someone gets up from the table and walks around, don’t you immediately respect them? I know I do. It takes a lot of guts but once you do it, you immediately appear smart. Fold your arms. Walk around. Go to the corner and lean against the wall. Take a deep, contemplative sigh. Trust me, everyone will be shitting their pants wondering what you’re thinking. If only they knew (bacon).
8. Ask the presenter to go back a slide
“Sorry, could you go back a slide?” They’re the seven words no presenter wants to hear. It doesn’t matter where in the presentation you shout this out, it’ll immediately make you look like you’re paying closer attention than everyone else is, because clearly they missed the thing that you’re about to brilliantly point out. Don’t have anything to point out? Just say something like, “I’m not sure what these numbers mean,” and sit back. You’ve bought yourself almost an entire meeting of appearing smart.
9. Step out for a phone call
You’re probably afraid to step out of the room because you fear people will think you aren’t making the meeting a priority. Interestingly, however, if you step out of a meeting for an “important” phone call, they’ll all realize just how busy and important you are. They’ll say, “Wow, this meeting is important, so if he has something even more important than this, well, we better not bother him.”
10. Make fun of yourself
If someone asks what you think, and you honestly didn’t hear a single word anyone said for the last hour, just say, “I honestly didn’t hear a single word anyone said for the last hour.” People love self-deprecating humor. Say things like, “Maybe we can just use the lawyers from my divorce,” or “God I wish I was dead.” They’ll laugh, value your honesty, consider contacting H.R., but most importantly, think you’re the smartest looking person in the room.
Getting up and drawing a Venn diagram is a great way to appear smart. It doesn’t matter if your Venn diagram is wildly inaccurate, in fact, the more inaccurate the better. Even before you’ve put that marker down, your colleagues will begin fighting about what exactly the labels should be and how big the circles should be, etc. At this point, you can slink back to your chair and go back to playing Candy Crush on your phone.
2. Translate percentage metrics into fractions
If someone says “About 25% of all users click on this button,” quickly chime in with, “So about 1 in 4,” and make a note of it. Everyone will nod their head in agreement, secretly impressed and envious of your quick math skills.
3. Encourage everyone to “take a step back”
There comes a point in most meetings where everyone is chiming in, except you. Opinions and data and milestones are being thrown around and you don’t know your CTA from your OTA. This is a great point to go, “Guys, guys, guys, can we take a step back here?” Everyone will turn their heads toward you, amazed at your ability to silence the fray. Follow it up with a quick, “What problem are we really trying to solve?” and, boom! You’ve bought yourself another hour of looking smart.
4. Nod continuously while pretending to take notes
Always bring a notepad with you. Your rejection of technology will be revered. Take notes by simply writing down one word from every sentence that you hear. Nod continuously while doing so. If someone asks you if you’re taking notes, quickly say that these are your own personal notes and that someone else should really be keeping a record of the meeting. Bravo compadre. You’ve saved your arse, and you’ve gotten out of doing any extra work. Or any work at all, if you’re truly succeeding.
5. Repeat the last thing the engineer said, but very very slowly
Make a mental note of the engineer in the room. Remember their name. They’ll be quiet throughout most of the meeting, but when their moment comes everything out of their mouth will spring from a place of unknowable brilliance. After they utters these divine words, chime in with, “Let me just repeat that,” and repeat exactly what the engineer just said, but very, very slowly. Now, that engineer’s brilliance has been transferred to you. People will look back on the meeting and mistakenly attribute the intelligent statement to you.
6. Ask “Will this scale?” no matter what it is
It’s important to find out if things will scale no matter what it is you’re discussing. No one even really knows what that means, but it’s a good catch-all question that generally applies and drives engineers nuts.
7. Pace around the room
Whenever someone gets up from the table and walks around, don’t you immediately respect them? I know I do. It takes a lot of guts but once you do it, you immediately appear smart. Fold your arms. Walk around. Go to the corner and lean against the wall. Take a deep, contemplative sigh. Trust me, everyone will be shitting their pants wondering what you’re thinking. If only they knew (bacon).
8. Ask the presenter to go back a slide
“Sorry, could you go back a slide?” They’re the seven words no presenter wants to hear. It doesn’t matter where in the presentation you shout this out, it’ll immediately make you look like you’re paying closer attention than everyone else is, because clearly they missed the thing that you’re about to brilliantly point out. Don’t have anything to point out? Just say something like, “I’m not sure what these numbers mean,” and sit back. You’ve bought yourself almost an entire meeting of appearing smart.
9. Step out for a phone call
You’re probably afraid to step out of the room because you fear people will think you aren’t making the meeting a priority. Interestingly, however, if you step out of a meeting for an “important” phone call, they’ll all realize just how busy and important you are. They’ll say, “Wow, this meeting is important, so if he has something even more important than this, well, we better not bother him.”
10. Make fun of yourself
If someone asks what you think, and you honestly didn’t hear a single word anyone said for the last hour, just say, “I honestly didn’t hear a single word anyone said for the last hour.” People love self-deprecating humor. Say things like, “Maybe we can just use the lawyers from my divorce,” or “God I wish I was dead.” They’ll laugh, value your honesty, consider contacting H.R., but most importantly, think you’re the smartest looking person in the room.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:29 pm to Epicenter1
It's just Harvard MBA's spewing buzzwords
Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:31 pm to Epicenter1
I am a old school CQI/TQM type. Have no idea what the flavor of the day is now being served.
Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:32 pm to RohanGonzales
I got the corp. cost cutting consultant well intoxicated one night and asked how they know where to look for opportunity in the varied businesses. Simple they responded, there is only 3-4 organization models, we define what you got,,,,,,,and then change it. Its the process of change that results is cost elimination
Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:34 pm to Narax
quote:
They have a pretty famous study that's completely bullshite.
Isn't this all consultants?
Posted on 3/24/25 at 9:50 pm to Epicenter1
management consulting at McKinsey Bain or BCG specifically?
frick you for even considering it
frick you for even considering it
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