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re: Man Jumps From Bushes For Birthday Surprise. His Father-In-Law Shoots Him

Posted on 10/6/19 at 1:03 pm to
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 1:03 pm to
Honestly Norwegians are pretty goofy. Most of them have not really experienced much adversity, since their country won the oil lottery and is very genetically homogeneous.

Had a Norwegian tell me a story once about his buddy who tried to pet a police horse at Mardi Gras and ended up getting charged with Felony Carnal Knowledge of a Horse or some shite. Not too much going on there in the way of 'street smarts.'
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
55381 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 1:04 pm to
quote:

That's definitely manslaughter. "Scary noise at somewhat late hour" does not equate to "need for deadly force."
how far away was the shot from?
Posted by Hogwarts
Arkansas, USA
Member since Sep 2015
18399 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 1:14 pm to
When keeping it real goes really wrong.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

how far away was the shot from?


If the guy was using a typical semi-automatic handgun, I doubt the distance was more than 10'. Sounds like he hit the guy exactly where he was aiming, and that's not easy with a semi-automatic handgun, particularly when you're awww scayud by duh mean bush man.
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
56172 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 1:24 pm to
Shot through the heart and you're to blame. OR because we are talking about Florida people: Shot through the heart and your to blame.
Posted by GeeOH
Louisiana
Member since Dec 2013
13376 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 1:24 pm to
Hes not charged
Posted by Napoleon
Kenna
Member since Dec 2007
74883 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 1:53 pm to
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3apeciqlly


Did you have a stroke?
This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 1:53 pm
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 2:02 pm to
In other localities/states they'd be looking to put the guy away for the rest of his life.

Glad this DA is sensible.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14688 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 2:29 pm to
Bunch of asshats in this thread. You don’t go banging on someone’s door at nearly midnight, and then come jumping out of the bushes at them.

You folks that want to use this to take guns from people or act like this man did something wrong suck. If you were in the same situation, maybe you would have had a good chuckle at the surprise this time, but the other 99% of the time you would have been the victim of a crime. Hopefully only you would be the victim, and not your wife or kids.

The question about how far the guy was from the shooter is a good one. It takes about 1-1/2 seconds for an assailant to cover 15 feet.
Posted by dcrews
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2011
32130 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 3:59 pm to
Are you....are you retarded?

Someone jumping out of the bushes and coming towards me in the middle of the night can reasonably considered life threatening.

I don't know if he's got a weapon, I can't tell who it is. If I hesitate 5 seconds to ask questions or try to see in the dark, I could be shot, stabbed or disarmed.

What I do know, is that my expectation is that anyone not wanting to harm me wouldn't hide in my bushes at damn near mid night then jump out at me.

Unfortunately the SiL made a dumb decision that resulted in a very unfortunate accident.
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 4:06 pm to
No one's personal safety is an absolute good, in any workable system of ethics.
Posted by ManBearTiger
BRLA
Member since Jun 2007
22670 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 4:07 pm to
quote:

someone banging on his backdoor around 11:30 p.m


Judicious use of force
Posted by bamagreycoat
Member since Oct 2012
5749 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 5:55 pm to
Hahahahaha this is why I get my news only from the OT. This is awesome and before anybody judges me for laughing, I’d love for someone to shoot me to death and I’m innocent of no wrong doing. It’s a great gift to be liquidated but you didn’t harm anyone in the process. You die with no blood on your hands.
Posted by jeff5891
Member since Aug 2011
15979 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 6:15 pm to
quote:

If I hesitate 5 seconds to ask questions or try to see in the dark, I could be shot, stabbed or disarmed.


Or shoot your son in law surprising you For your birthday just wanting a hug.

quote:

If I hesitate 5 seconds to ask questions
do you think that’s the only way to identify your target?

quote:

Are you....are you retarded?


Nah, Just someone who understands the law and standard gun safety rules.


Here is the first one from the NRA when using a loaded firearm:
quote:

When using or storing a gun, always follow these additional NRA rules:

Know your target and what is beyond.

Be absolutely sure you have identified your target beyond any doubt. Equally important, be aware of the area beyond your target. This means observing your prospective area of fire before you shoot. Never fire in a direction in which there are people or any other potential for mishap. Think first. Shoot second.

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This post was edited on 10/6/19 at 6:17 pm
Posted by USMEagles
Member since Jan 2018
11811 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 6:18 pm to
quote:

Be absolutely sure you have identified your target beyond any doubt. Equally important, be aware of the area beyond your target. This means observing your prospective area of fire before you shoot. Never fire in a direction in which there are people or any other potential for mishap. Think first. Shoot second.


Same people ignoring this rule here probably get all pissy if someone briefly "muzzle sweeps" them with a disassembled firearm at a gun shop.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24669 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 6:29 pm to
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The owner shot into the bushes and killed the guy mid-wipe.

I can imagine the forensics employed to figure this out.
Posted by Arkapigdiesel
Faulkner County
Member since Jun 2009
15769 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

The bullet hit Bergan "straight in the heart," Santa Rosa County Sheriff Bob Johnson said, killing the 37-year-old instantly.

You always wanna hit center mass. Old timer knew the deal.
Posted by troyt37
Member since Mar 2008
14688 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 6:49 pm to
quote:

Here is the first one from the NRA when using a loaded firearm:
quote:
When using or storing a gun, always follow these additional NRA rules:

Know your target and what is beyond.

Be absolutely sure you have identified your target beyond any doubt. Equally important, be aware of the area beyond your target. This means observing your prospective area of fire before you shoot. Never fire in a direction in which there are people or any other potential for mishap. Think first. Shoot second.



First of all, the NRA is a shitty, disingenuous gun control organization.

Second, ever ponder how many people would be dead if they took the time to do all of that in a life or death situation?

Lastly, every situation is different, but if you beat on my door at midnight, and then hide and jump out at me, you are probably getting shot.
Posted by Teddy Ruxpin
Member since Oct 2006
40991 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 6:49 pm to
quote:

In a coincidence that may have contributed to Dennis' state of mind the night of the shooting, another relative had pounded on his front door at about 9:30 p.m. The two had a "verbal altercation," Johnson said, and Dennis chased that relative off.


Have we talked about this part of the story yet?
Posted by lsuwontonwrap
Member since Aug 2012
34147 posts
Posted on 10/6/19 at 6:52 pm to
I bet he won't do that again.
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