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Posted on 12/15/16 at 9:30 am to BabyrayS2k
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Why do you feel bad for the cops?
Because they got shot...
Posted on 12/15/16 at 9:33 am to heypaul
Hopefully this will deter officers from participating in these raids. They are dangerous all the way around for all involved and are most often unnecessary.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 9:34 am to stout
Puts a smile on my face
Posted on 12/15/16 at 9:34 am to SG_Geaux
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My best friend was shot and killed in the line of duty because they knocked first giving the guy time to prepare himself.
So that goes both ways.
Why was this downvoted....
Posted on 12/15/16 at 9:39 am to Huey Lewis
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He wasn't innocent. He did in fact shoot three officers. He had an affirmative defense and was acquitted.
Dumb logic is dumb.
These sorts of raids are dumb, and a wise LEO would read this case a few times before deciding if the next one is worth it.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 9:40 am to BabyrayS2k
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Yeah the system worked except the part about spending two years in jail for nothing.
frikking this!!!!
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:19 am to someLSUdoosh
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Why was this downvoted....
Because it attempts to justify violating people's basic rights because he friend chose an inherently dangerous job.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:21 am to stout
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Agreed. No knock warrants are dangerous and borderline unconstitutional.
Borderline my arse
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:47 am to theunknownknight
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Borderline my arse
You could make a strong case for a no knock warrant in something like a kidnapping case or similar.
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:54 am to stout
Not reading the entire thread does he get to sue for being locked up for two years? That's a lot of lost wages.
This post was edited on 12/15/16 at 10:55 am
Posted on 12/15/16 at 10:56 am to TheCaterpillar
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What in the absolute frick.
Why was he even arrested?
yeah but i'm sure his bond was like $1M for the charges
it's chickenshit that the didn't amend them to lower charges until the trial
Posted on 12/15/16 at 12:35 pm to Barf
Ok... that's quite the leap you made Neal Armstrong
Posted on 12/15/16 at 12:48 pm to TexasTiger1185
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Ok... that's quite the leap you made Neal Armstrong
That was the point. How far would you be willing to go under the protection of "just following orders?" The reason I said what I was because there will always be someone out there who's willing to follow an order, no matter what that order may be. Should they be allowed to shrug their shoulders and say someone else told them to do it?
Would you kick down someones door at 4am to look for someone who doesn't even own the home?
I'm not saying a bunch of cops need to get mowed down during no knock warrants but at some point they should start considering that what they are doing may not be good.
This post was edited on 12/15/16 at 12:50 pm
Posted on 12/15/16 at 1:13 pm to TexasTiger1185
It's the example that proves that "they were just following orders" is not a valid excuse. That's the point. You are ultimately responsible for your own actions. Iirc isn't this principle actually part of military law?
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