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re: Male fatigue
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:37 pm to moneyg
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:37 pm to moneyg
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Based on your OP, you strung him along, gave him reason to think you were interested and were never clear about what it would take to hire you. The reality is that he might have been interested in hiring you simply because he had the impression (even wrongly) that he could get you at that discount. It would have been as simple as letting him know what it would take to hire you...but you weren't willing to do that. While I'm sure this guy is a tool, you caused this. Be professional, tell him what it would take (or tell him there's no amount that would make you take the job at this time) and move on.
This is all true.
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And, your "he didn't even ask if I was upset" is a humorously, stereotypical, female reaction. The irony is thick.
I dont care if he asks if I’m upset. That was to point out how ego-driven this whole situation is. It’s all about him demonstrating his power. I truly don’t expect him to care if I’m upset but he is asking if I’m upset with him. That’s irrelevant if this is a business/professional thing. The polite email I sent was like 4 sentences. There was no emotion and no indication that I’m upset or happy or anything else.
But you are right. I should have shut this down a year ago and I didn’t.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:39 pm to 4cubbies
Only fricking dorks work in public admin and you and this dude both seem to qualify
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:39 pm to SallysHuman
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I just wouldn't make this a "man" issue, honestly... They do it to each other too- push til they hit a firm wall. It isn't malicious... it's just different.
I hear you. It’s definitely not an all man issue.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:40 pm to 4cubbies
quote:Are you saying you believe the reason he kept trying to hire you was because he wants to get in your pants?
I’m sharing this because people here sometimes ask why I don't give men the benefit of the doubt or why I "hate men." It’s not hatred. It's the experience of being treated like a plaything by mediocre men looking for an ego boost over and over for years.
If that's not the point of your diatribe, then wtf IS your point?
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:40 pm to 4cubbies
Years ago I was contacted by this recruiter. I missed the call and she left a VM asking me to call her back ASAP and that my resume was just what she was looking for and that if I wasn't interest did I know anyone with a similar resume as mine.
I was looking for a job at the time which is why she found my resume. I called her back and she set the interview up for 2 days later. She told me it was a formality and that once it was over to call her so she can start processing everything.
I went on the interview, it seemed to go well and I called her maybe 5 mins after it was over. She didn't answer so I left a VM. A week later after calling her a few more times and sending a few emails with no reply I moved on, that bitch emailed me like 2 months later to tell me she was on vacation and that they were no longer hiring anyone for that position. For some reason her emailing me 2 months later pissed me off. At that point it was in the past and the job I eventually got was probably a lot better than that job, but she emailed me like I was waiting around to hear from her.
I was in the middle of a reply to her telling her that she needed to be better at her shite job as a recruiter then I realized I was just letting out my frustrations. I was familiar with recruiting because I was at a company in between projects and was asked if I could help the recruiters, they were moving one from Houston to Baton Rouge and I was pretty much calling people and telling them where to go take a piss test and if they failed I called to tell them. The recruiter overhead me tell a dude that he could go take his "piss test" at a certain place and she told her manager, who I was technically working under. She calls me up and gives me a lecture on being profession. I told her the dude was working in the field, I was talking the way he talks and that they usually make fun of the HR and recruiters anyway.
I was put on some type of probation, I told my real boss about it and he laughs about it and calls the manager from the recruiting department and tells her he didn't appreciate the way she treated people outside of her department. He was laughing where she couldn't hear, but I really got female fatigue working with a department full of women. I was the only male during that short time and I never seen a group of people who were fake as shite. They would all act like best friends, then talk about each other like dogs behind each others back. So I understand.
I was looking for a job at the time which is why she found my resume. I called her back and she set the interview up for 2 days later. She told me it was a formality and that once it was over to call her so she can start processing everything.
I went on the interview, it seemed to go well and I called her maybe 5 mins after it was over. She didn't answer so I left a VM. A week later after calling her a few more times and sending a few emails with no reply I moved on, that bitch emailed me like 2 months later to tell me she was on vacation and that they were no longer hiring anyone for that position. For some reason her emailing me 2 months later pissed me off. At that point it was in the past and the job I eventually got was probably a lot better than that job, but she emailed me like I was waiting around to hear from her.
I was in the middle of a reply to her telling her that she needed to be better at her shite job as a recruiter then I realized I was just letting out my frustrations. I was familiar with recruiting because I was at a company in between projects and was asked if I could help the recruiters, they were moving one from Houston to Baton Rouge and I was pretty much calling people and telling them where to go take a piss test and if they failed I called to tell them. The recruiter overhead me tell a dude that he could go take his "piss test" at a certain place and she told her manager, who I was technically working under. She calls me up and gives me a lecture on being profession. I told her the dude was working in the field, I was talking the way he talks and that they usually make fun of the HR and recruiters anyway.
I was put on some type of probation, I told my real boss about it and he laughs about it and calls the manager from the recruiting department and tells her he didn't appreciate the way she treated people outside of her department. He was laughing where she couldn't hear, but I really got female fatigue working with a department full of women. I was the only male during that short time and I never seen a group of people who were fake as shite. They would all act like best friends, then talk about each other like dogs behind each others back. So I understand.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:44 pm to 4cubbies
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I hear you. It’s definitely not an all man issue.
Men are amazing creatures, I love them... I don't get the hate some women have for them. Women are great, too. It'd be nice if we could celebrate the differences, relish the yin and yang of it all. Life is good, be happy!
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:45 pm to 4cubbies
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This situation is one example, and unfortunately, I am not special. This type of thing happens to women all the time. Your daughters have to or will have to put with this same bullshite.
A man would just say they weren’t interested right off the bat and not even applied for the job or gone in for an interview.
This again seems like a woman problem.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:45 pm to SallysHuman
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For women, that is friendship... for men, it probably isn't the same- it's networking.
Maybe. From being in the dynamic, our relationship was not professional. Our professional lives never intersected or overlapped. I guess I viewed him more as an acquaintance. He called me about school or to ask me how I’m doing but I never called him. Friendly acquaintances I guess would be a better description of our relationship.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:47 pm to 4cubbies
Congrats on getting so many men to read your post 
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:48 pm to OweO
Did you forget to log into your 4cubbies alter, Oweo?
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:52 pm to 4cubbies
I would say it has nothing to do with his attraction for you or lack there of as you have stated you are pregnant. Unless he's into that. He might just be head hunting and know that you are skilled and it would be a win to hire you. He might also see you as a friend when you clearly don't.
If you have a friend that is high up at a company and they said they can hook you up with a easy job with perks but on paper it say somemthign else. Then, in my opinion, that really was the case. I have taken jobs like that where the company have a strict by the numbers screenings, but after you are in you only report to your friend who then give you the perks.
A bit of nepotism? Probably, but hey, its a job. I dont think he has any ulterior motive and if you sick of it just said you're done and block him high and dry.
If you have a friend that is high up at a company and they said they can hook you up with a easy job with perks but on paper it say somemthign else. Then, in my opinion, that really was the case. I have taken jobs like that where the company have a strict by the numbers screenings, but after you are in you only report to your friend who then give you the perks.
A bit of nepotism? Probably, but hey, its a job. I dont think he has any ulterior motive and if you sick of it just said you're done and block him high and dry.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:53 pm to 4cubbies
How quickly were you responding to his calls/emails/texts? If you aren’t interested, tell him “thanks but i’m happy at my current job”, or “sorry, i would need x amount of money or x amount of days remotely, in writing before accepting, in order to consider changing jobs.” If you want to “not burn the bridge”, but he keeps bugging you, keep repeating “Thanks but no. Good luck, it was nice talking to you!” Take progressively longer and longer to reply. Like days later, with “Sorry, just saw this. Been busy!” If it progresses into borderline harassment or if it turns to outright creepiness, just stop replying. But usually if you do the slow but friendly fade properly, it doesn’t. If you ever need them in the future (like for a job), they likely won’t hold it against you.
That’s my 2 cents as a woman who’s been in the workforce a lot of years.
That’s my 2 cents as a woman who’s been in the workforce a lot of years.
This post was edited on 12/1/25 at 6:56 pm
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:57 pm to 4cubbies
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I don't think he would have called a man 10 times about this job in one week.
Why would you assume this?
I have seen recruiters try to convince someone (a guy) to accept a job that would have paid him less and told him he would get enough OT to make more than what he was making.
She would call him every day for almost two weeks like she was trying to recruit a top QB prospect all because no one else was able to fill the job and she wanted the commission. Dude just stopped answering his phone and stopped responding to her emails. When it was obvious he had no interest, she was more upset that he didn't "take her bait" when she flirted with her than she was about not getting the commission. She said.. and I quote "When I turn to flirting it always works! I should text him that I wasn't flirting with him because I thought he was cute. He should have been happy that someone was finally flirting with him".
Turn that around and a man was a recruiter and decided to try to flirt with a female potential hire. If she reported him, he would have been fired and they would have offered her more money.
So if you have male fatigue, would you have female fatigue if a woman did the same thing? Its a people thing, not a sex thing.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 7:00 pm to rltiger
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Experience tells me most female employee with a newborn is late, misses work, needs to leave early, complains about how hard motherhood is with work, wants to personalize everything, constantly distracted, won’t take criticism, will cry at work. Husbands never seem to be available for baby needs, so wife needs to take off.
Exactly, post reeks of American white female entitlement. She's complaining on a message board about what everyone else has to go through in this modern job market like its the worst thing that has ever happened.
Guarantee you her husband is working 60 hours a week and doing stuff around the house and she feels "offended" a guy that offered her a job without remote opportunities is "oppressive" and "misogynist."
Posted on 12/1/25 at 7:04 pm to 4cubbies
Here’s what you idiots should have said to the OP:
That guy sounds like a real jerk. Good for you for telling him to stick it. You did the right thing and hopefully he will learn from this exchange because of your professionalism.
Was that so hard meatheads?
That guy sounds like a real jerk. Good for you for telling him to stick it. You did the right thing and hopefully he will learn from this exchange because of your professionalism.
Was that so hard meatheads?
Posted on 12/1/25 at 7:06 pm to WheyCheddar
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Was that so hard meatheads?

Posted on 12/1/25 at 7:06 pm to Defenseiskey
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Exactly, post reeks of American white female entitlement.
Yeah, we’re so entitled trying to hold down fulltime jobs while staying up all night with a baby, doing childcare and house chores from the moment we get home until 11 pm and all weekend, and having husbands who can’t take off work ever. It’s a life of luxury for sure.
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