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re: Making oil from plastic (experiment)
Posted on 3/16/19 at 4:59 pm to TheChosenOne
Posted on 3/16/19 at 4:59 pm to TheChosenOne
Well a) at least in revenue dollars its output will exceed its upfront costs and input costs within 3 years, and b) almost all new processes like this aren't just stumbled onto as viable solutions. There's an initial proof of concept and then years of process refinements and working with the engineering team to find room to improve efficiency to reach a net positive output
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Posted on 3/16/19 at 5:04 pm to texag7
Very cool! Appreciate next weekends science experiment
Posted on 3/16/19 at 5:08 pm to SirWinston
Natural gas is a feed stock for plastics so figures you could get gases back cool it down and have some form of LNG.
?? I am sure there are plenty of chemist on site that will have knowledge.
?? I am sure there are plenty of chemist on site that will have knowledge.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 5:09 pm to texag7
I bet if you distilled Joe Alleva using the same process you’d end up with a jar full of shite
This post was edited on 3/16/19 at 5:09 pm
Posted on 3/16/19 at 5:12 pm to fr33manator
quote:
I bet if you distilled Joe Alleva using the same process you’d end up with a jar full of shite
Posted on 3/16/19 at 5:26 pm to whit
The real money all determines in just how high you get off the fumes and or liquid.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 5:30 pm to Kcrad
quote:
I'm betting you get injured/killed before making anything useful.
I'm glad I live nowhere near you.
Variation on a theme.
This post was edited on 3/16/19 at 5:31 pm
Posted on 3/16/19 at 5:42 pm to Codythetiger
I do. Most do.
He took used objects made of plastic and some car tire and heated, then cooled.
Heated, vaporized, cooled, some oily goo reflecting the objects.
Goo Burns.
Another poster suggested putting the goo through another round to get a lighter fuel. A real operation would plan for getting out the different distillates and selling or using them to make more objects.
I'm glad he wasn't killed by the pressure gauge. Others opine: "glad I'm not near him," and "he's going to gamble and lose life or limb".
Others, practical, point out how different commercial trial process is from this experiment.
Certainly a bangup beginning.
If you do this at home stay focused. And maybe use super glue at your pressure gauge.
If you missed parts, copy and paste those and ask questions.
Obviously some posters know this topic cold.
I took chemistry 60 years ago.
The op explained his doings well.
Peace. Out.
He took used objects made of plastic and some car tire and heated, then cooled.
Heated, vaporized, cooled, some oily goo reflecting the objects.
Goo Burns.
Another poster suggested putting the goo through another round to get a lighter fuel. A real operation would plan for getting out the different distillates and selling or using them to make more objects.
I'm glad he wasn't killed by the pressure gauge. Others opine: "glad I'm not near him," and "he's going to gamble and lose life or limb".
Others, practical, point out how different commercial trial process is from this experiment.
Certainly a bangup beginning.
If you do this at home stay focused. And maybe use super glue at your pressure gauge.
If you missed parts, copy and paste those and ask questions.
Obviously some posters know this topic cold.
I took chemistry 60 years ago.
The op explained his doings well.
Peace. Out.
This post was edited on 3/16/19 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 3/16/19 at 5:52 pm to CelticDog
Thought I was doing something spectacular changing lawn mower blades today...
Posted on 3/16/19 at 6:03 pm to GaDawg9977
Doesn’t seem like much oil was recovered for the amount of material heated up. Interesting experiment nevertheless!
Posted on 3/16/19 at 6:18 pm to texag7
You could probably just buy some 1 micron filters and run your liquid through it to clear it up. That's what the vegetable oil to biodiesel guys do as a final step I think. Well, the guys who do the gravity settling method.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 7:58 pm to Sao
where do you get those?
Posted on 3/16/19 at 8:05 pm to texag7
I think maybe Amazon actually. I've watched some pretty interesting vids on YT about how easy it is to gravity seperate bio d from basic restaurant waste cooking oil. It takes time for the oil to stratify but the base is pretty pure. Then they strain using common white fabric micron filters and it's legit good to go. If you can't find a 1 micron, buy 2 micron and double up. I've seen a guy do that as well.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 8:09 pm to texag7
50 bucks says you make meth
Posted on 3/16/19 at 8:15 pm to texag7
That's pretty fricking cool...
But how much fuel/E was consumed heating the materials up in order to produce that oil?
But how much fuel/E was consumed heating the materials up in order to produce that oil?
Posted on 3/16/19 at 9:00 pm to texag7
Suggestions for improvement (even though I hate every post you’ve ever made on this site):
1) If you’re serious about this, be systematic. Your starting materials were a diverse mix of molecular structures. This makes your output an even bigger mix and tough to repeat and draw conclusions.
2) PVC limits the pressures, and therefore the extent of reaction, you can reach. Switch to all steel pipe but only do so if you fully understand the safety precautions to be taken.
3) Consider capturing the output condensates at different pressure levels. This can also reduce complexity.
4) Your experiment is not really oxygen-free. Consider purging everything with argon before heating.
5) Definitely do some sort of filtration. This will also make it easier for you to see if you have two phases, which you can then further separate to better understand your results.
1) If you’re serious about this, be systematic. Your starting materials were a diverse mix of molecular structures. This makes your output an even bigger mix and tough to repeat and draw conclusions.
2) PVC limits the pressures, and therefore the extent of reaction, you can reach. Switch to all steel pipe but only do so if you fully understand the safety precautions to be taken.
3) Consider capturing the output condensates at different pressure levels. This can also reduce complexity.
4) Your experiment is not really oxygen-free. Consider purging everything with argon before heating.
5) Definitely do some sort of filtration. This will also make it easier for you to see if you have two phases, which you can then further separate to better understand your results.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 9:32 pm to texag7
quote:
This is a 3” pipe
Yeah it is!
Posted on 3/16/19 at 9:40 pm to texag7
What you've just done is open a portal to Hell.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 10:09 pm to texag7
OP didn’t cut many classes in Chemistry I don’t think.
Posted on 3/16/19 at 10:11 pm to dbeck
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I'm betting you get injured/killed before making anything useful.
If he's successful he'll die but it will be from a "hit" rather than his experimentation.
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