re: Major wildfire in Los Angeles (and Pasadena)

Reddit link

(no message)

quote:

---

There's the lazy part I was talking about. Assuming I'm the enemy, and not backing that up with anything else.

---

As far as I'm concerned you are more of the enemy because you are complicit and subservient to them. This is not an opinion either.

quote:

---

As far as I'm concerned you are more of the enemy because you are complicit and subservient to them. This is not an opinion either.

---

can we all admit that we are all a bunch of retards talking about fires over a thousand miles away and nothing said here will change anything?

quote:

---

OMLandshark

---

I dont know what it is, I think its her delivery and just the way she talks but Amala is fire.

quote:

---

Yikes. I thought she was doing a great job?

---

You can cost people some money, some, and not sway them. Cost them a ton of money, and they will usually sway quickly.

But when you punch them in the guts and cause stress to their family, effort to move, change your kids and wives lives, etc. People start to pay attention.

There's a lot of people that are going to be impacted from this fire for a very very long time.

quote:

---

Now every fire they have gets out of hand

---

The temperature gradient between the chilly mountains and the warm coasts has increased considerably since the 1980's. In general, the strip of land west of the coastal ranges is about 3° F warmer than 1980; a changing climate has resulted in fiercer winds, hotter fires and increased length of the summer dry season-- add to this a rapidly increasing population, and you end up with a combustible catastrophe.

It's sad, but reality is reality. Sure there's more potentially combustible pine forests in Florida, Georgia and the pine barrens of New Jersey, but the climate in these regions is humid and there's no topography extremes there to allow drastic temperature gradients and fierce uncontrollable winds. The East can't compare to the West in this regard.

Water was empty at least in Nov



Forest fire burn acreage in the US is down more than 90% since pre-industrial times, but ClimateScam professionals never let history, science or reality get in the way of their propaganda.

Looking further into the previous fire in the area the Palisades Fire started.

That was the first new fire in LA County of the new year. It was first reported at around 2:45 AM on New Year's Day. Its start location is very, very close to that of the Palisades Fire. It burned under 15-20mph winds, had some ember cast, and received a quick response with plenty of resources. It burned eight acres in total, and did briefly threaten homes along a road immediately adjacent to what I believe were the first homes impacted by the Palisades fire six days later. It was dubbed the Lachman Fire, and no homes were damaged by it. By 6:00 AM forward progress on the fire had been stopped, and it was no longer actively burning.

I haven't seen an official statement on the cause of the Lachman Fire, but being that it occured on New Year's Eve/Day, fireworks are the most likely culprit, particularly given the location near several neighborhoods. Given this info, I believe that a holdover rekindling of the Lachman Fire is the most likely cause of the Palisades Fire start six days later.

All of that said, if people want a real, legitimate piece of policy to go after in regards to the Palisades Fire the fact that the LAFD doesn't appear to have a policy of keeping close mandatory watch on fires that have recently been extinguished is a good area to focus on. I don't know for certain, but it seems that no one followed up on that fire, and it wasn't department policy to do so.

Failing to keep tabs on previously burned areas, particularly in the face of a well-forecast Santa Ana Wind event and a looming extremely critical fire weather day is a big, big problem. It is an even bigger issue when you understand how close the original Lachman Fire was to heavily populated areas.

The original fire, thankfully, wasn't a huge threat to those neighborhoods. The winds were manageable, humidity was decent, and the response was more than sufficient. The factors that changed everything with the following Palisades Fire were the extremely high winds and rock bottom humidity. However, it very likely wouldn't have mattered if the original fire had been checked and any remaining embers or hotspots were doused in the days leading up to the heightened fire threat.


-The blue line to the north is the road where homes were threatened by the earlier Lachman Fire.
-The yellow line to the south is the road where the likely first homes were impacted by the following Palisades Fire.
-The southern-most starred location is the location of the address given for the first report of what would become the Palisades Fire.
-The flag circled in orange is the possible start location for the Palisades Fire. There is satellite imagery that shows smoke coming from this general location prior to the first report.
-The next flag up is the trailhead.