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re: LSU's Black enrollment trending upward while white enrollment trending downward
Posted on 12/19/24 at 1:18 pm to PelicanState87
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 1:19 pm to PelicanState87
White kids are choosing trade and specialty schools. They’re doing apprenticeships and going to work.
NPR recently did an entire show on this.
NPR recently did an entire show on this.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 1:26 pm to PelicanState87
You can’t compare trends at a highly selective university like Harvard to enrollment trends at LSU.
It’s great that black college enrollment is increasing. This is exactly what we as a society need to elevate the education level of Louisiana as a whole.
It’s great that black college enrollment is increasing. This is exactly what we as a society need to elevate the education level of Louisiana as a whole.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 1:29 pm to PelicanState87
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frick you.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 1:31 pm to PelicanState87
The school admin had been pushing DEI for enrollment and other things.
If the students are qualified, I won’t complain. But when they are shite students taking spots that others deserved, that is an issue.
If the students are qualified, I won’t complain. But when they are shite students taking spots that others deserved, that is an issue.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 1:33 pm to PelicanState87
By going the wrong direction do you mean going to a university where they wont be subject to a stabbing or random violent act?
Posted on 12/19/24 at 1:36 pm to TBoy
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You can’t compare trends at a highly selective university like Harvard to enrollment trends at LSU.
It’s great that black college enrollment is increasing. This is exactly what we as a society need to elevate the education level of Louisiana as a whole.
I agree only if that enrollment is trying to obtain useful education.
Yes, either way the university makes money, agreed. Yes, I agree raising the education level of everyone is the path to take. I do not like people going into university only to come out with debt in a field where there are no jobs.
At this point I am not so sure going in the first place was the correct idea. I would argue going the blue collar route, which is where we are dying right now. We really need this to turn up.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 1:38 pm to Lsukinesalum2001
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The sad thing is he actually wants to go to LSU and be in tiger band.
Congrats to your son! I have a daughter that if she continues on her current trajectory will likely have to make a similar decision in a few years.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 1:39 pm to armytiger96
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Better scholarship opportunities at out of state schools. TOPS has made LSU lazy in terms of rewarding the best students with scholarships.
This is likely the real reason. I went through this with my kid last year. LSU doesn't award much money on merit academic scholarships. My kid ended up going to University Alabama Huntsville because a considerable amount of more money was offered.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 1:46 pm to PelicanState87
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So why do you all feel LSU's white population is declining? I
Baton Rouge.
Also fall 2020 with covid response and fall 2021 after the brawl in the honor dorm and some other stuff around honors dorm and elsewhere on campus some parents started easing up on any push for kids to go their Alma mater (BR was also a factor).
It would be interesting to compare high schools including rankings & achievement including GPA between the students admitted over past 3 or 4 years and see how grants specific to LSU, scholarships, entry into honors or other similar programs, and even just admission if LSU has a minimum were handled based on race and high school achievements of the individuals. I remember a couple of OT parents mentioning their kid got some scholarship money offered on merit from objectively better schools while not getting offered anything from LSU.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 1:48 pm to jizzle6609
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I would argue going the blue collar route, which is where we are dying right now. We really need this to turn up.
There’s a good living to be made in the trades. No doubt. But there is no justification for hand wringing about black students at LSU.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 1:50 pm to PelicanState87
sounds like Southern should close then
Posted on 12/19/24 at 1:51 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
I’ve learned that there are “merit”- based schools and “income”-based schools. For ivy league schools you have to meet a certain criteria to get in to begin with. We looked into this and the most they would match us is 50% based on income despite my son scoring perfect on standardized tests (ACT and SAT). LSU also likes to follow that trend. If you don’t make much income and meet certain requirements, then they will cover you fully. So only option available to us is TOPs for LSU. But my problem is that LSU is not Ivy and they are losing some of their best applicants because of this. Schools such as Bama and La Tech are merit based. If you make the score, they will give you the money.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 1:55 pm to logjamming
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Such an ignorant take.
“White” simply refers to one’s skin tone. While “black” is an identity based on the shared history and culture of a population. Hence the capitalization of “black.”
BS. Plenty of groups of shared histories. I have personally seen it used to describe skin tone. It just seems blacks need something to make them feel special like affirmative action, quotas, lower expectations by their Dem leaders, out of proportion generational welfare, and so on wasn’t enough.
Do they capitalize the “V” in violence as well?
Posted on 12/19/24 at 2:09 pm to TBoy
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But there is no justification for hand wringing about black students at LSU.
There is if they were given preferential treatment in admission including honors or similar programs, aid/grants/scholarships, in recruitment/outreach, and in using or weighing their high school and their HS individual achievements towards those. I don’t know and don’t care enough about LSU’s academics at this point to even see if it can be examined with already public information, but the nature of leftist administrations of colleges across the country over the past 4 years would make at least some preferential treatment more likely than not.
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Posted on 12/19/24 at 2:17 pm to westbankdabestbank
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According to Collegeboard, LSU is 19% Black. That is the highest Black percentage in the SEC (next is Mississippi State at 15%).
LSU might become the next University of Memphis. University of Memphis is about to reach a Black plurality where they make up the majority. I thought winning the natty in 2019 would revive LSU's popularity with White kids but it didn't. Honestly, I think LSU may be getting "too diverse" for a certain group of folks but it is what it is
Posted on 12/19/24 at 2:17 pm to armytiger96
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Better scholarship opportunities at out of state schools. TOPS has made LSU lazy in terms of rewarding the best students with scholarships.
Several in state schools post their basic freshmen merit scholarships tables on their websites. They are solely based on GPA and ACT/SAT scores.
Lack of transparency on LSU's part along with its holistic admission policy is steering some really good middle class students away.
This post was edited on 12/19/24 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 12/19/24 at 2:20 pm to PelicanState87
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So why do you all feel LSU's white population is declining?
My response is only going to stick to this part of your post. It shouldn't be a surprise that enrollment of white students at LSU is experiencing a decline. Enrollment of white students across all of higher education is generally down, with some figures pointing to about a 22% decline from 2012 to 2022 (9.6mil to 7.3mil) and the trend appears to be going down based on recently reported enrollment numbers. Some schools that are seeing an enrollment increase in white students tend to be most selective in admittance. Very few public universities are on that level of most selective, and LSU is not there in that group.
Some hypothesize that the declines are based on perceived value (white people tend to not see as much value in obtaining a degree than minorities) and perceived work opportunity (more white people tend to get better paying jobs without a college degree than minorities). The debt part is another factor that might have a hand in declining enrollment numbers among white people, as they may be more likely to avoid taking on non-discharchable debt than other minorities.
Posted on 12/19/24 at 2:29 pm to PelicanState87
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I was taught it was grammatically correct but if it bothers you that much pretend you see a "W". See link below explaining it.
you were taught wrong by a racist teacher
Posted on 12/19/24 at 2:59 pm to McVick
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white people tend to not see as much value in obtaining a degree than minorities
Where did this come from?
Can you cite anything to give that some credence?
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