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re: LSU to mandate COVID vaccine when it receives FDA approval
Posted on 8/12/21 at 2:39 pm to geauxtigers33
Posted on 8/12/21 at 2:39 pm to geauxtigers33
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It’s expected to happen within the next month
The booster shot is about to get FDA approval not the original 2 shots of the vaccine.
I believe you are incorrect.
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Posted on 8/12/21 at 2:42 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
most schools are doing it. like it or not, it's not going anywhere
Posted on 8/12/21 at 2:42 pm to geauxtigers33
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The booster shot is about to get FDA approval not the original 2 shots of the vaccine.
I think you've got it arse backwards hoss....the booster is going to get EUA and the original 2 shot regimens are above to get full FDA approval.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 2:44 pm to geauxtigers33
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The moment they do the company’s creating the vaccine will be reliable for anything that happens to someone that takes the vaccine which right now they are exempt from.
I assume you mean liable.
I think you are incorrect on that for vaccines in general. Which is why today when a person get GBS from the flu shot they really have 0 recourse.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 2:46 pm to WhiteGramblingGrad72
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You people are really going to make this shite never go away.
This virus won't go away because of vaccines. In fact it won't go away at all. If it's not already it is headed quickly to being endemic.
What will happen sooner or later is that COVID-19 will become similar to the common cold.....everyone will have a healthy immunity to it so that we can withstand it and its variants. This may take a generation but it will happen. Until then we will have to live with some version of COVID....which will probably turn into a seasonal illness rather quickly.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 2:48 pm to LSU316
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What will happen sooner or later is that COVID-19 will become similar to the common cold.....everyone will have a healthy immunity to it so that we can withstand it and its variants. This may take a generation but it will happen. Until then we will have to live with some version of COVID....which will probably turn into a seasonal illness rather quickly.
This. The reason it has fricked some people up is we literally had zero immunity to it. As people get vaccinated or receive natural immunity, then at least we have some immunity to it regardless of if antibodies wane over time.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 2:52 pm to Tiger Ree
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When you get a polio vaccine, you don't get polio
When you get a measles vaccine, you don't get measles
No vaccine is 100% effective across large populations. People have gotten polio and measles after being vaccinated. It’s rare, but it happens. Vaccines aren’t some shield that prevents a virus from entering your body. They train your immune system to fight the virus.
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It Doesn't work that way with the BS mRNA Covid vaccines does it?
Yes, yes it does work that way
Posted on 8/12/21 at 2:56 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
The efficacy of the MRNA vaccines are dropping slowly and the FDA won’t approve them if they don’t work worth a shite.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 2:56 pm to BilbeauTBaggins
quote:not yet
California restaurants are requiring vaccination proof in order to dine
Posted on 8/12/21 at 2:58 pm to LSU316
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The moment they do the company’s creating the vaccine will be reliable for anything that happens to someone that takes the vaccine which right now they are exempt from.
I assume you mean liable.
I think you are incorrect on that for vaccines in general. Which is why today when a person get GBS from the flu shot they really have 0 recourse.
CICP covered the vaccines while under EUA and then the BL is approved they move under VICP. VICP was a tort reform measure from the 1980's that limits liability in most situations for vaccine manufacturers. It works a little like Workers Comp in that there is no negligence required just causation. It does not offer complete blanket immunity but just like Comp you have to show gross negligence/willful & wanton/criminal actions to sue in tort.
You are incorrect about the lack of recourse for GBS from the flu shot. While true it was harder to get compensation for prior to 2017 since then GBS has been an on-table injury by the flu shot, IIRC the presentation time is 6 weeks. Note GBS is not on-table for certain other vaccines like tetanus.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 3:34 pm to purpgoldblood
I don't think your right. The vaccine doesn't have any covid in 8t at all minus the Johnson and Johnson.
I was signed up for Johnson and Johnson until it has some issues now I'm waiting to see.
The other to vaccines do not have any covid in it I don't think???... doesn't it just alter your DNA or the signals? Causing your body to make these protein your body needs to fight covid?
That's my issue I just am not comfortable getting something telling my body to make something without a reason. I'm just ignorant of what the potential issues are in the future with your body having all these excess protein in your body....
Johnson and Johnson exposes you too the virus causing your body to make anti bodies I believe and if I have to take one that's the one I think I will take even if that specific vaccine does not get the approval that the other two do, hopefully it does get approved also or none get approved.
But I'm probably wrong still have not decided which one and I won't get any of them until my job requires it which looks to be asap. Definitely won't get it just to go to a football game.
I was signed up for Johnson and Johnson until it has some issues now I'm waiting to see.
The other to vaccines do not have any covid in it I don't think???... doesn't it just alter your DNA or the signals? Causing your body to make these protein your body needs to fight covid?
That's my issue I just am not comfortable getting something telling my body to make something without a reason. I'm just ignorant of what the potential issues are in the future with your body having all these excess protein in your body....
Johnson and Johnson exposes you too the virus causing your body to make anti bodies I believe and if I have to take one that's the one I think I will take even if that specific vaccine does not get the approval that the other two do, hopefully it does get approved also or none get approved.
But I'm probably wrong still have not decided which one and I won't get any of them until my job requires it which looks to be asap. Definitely won't get it just to go to a football game.
This post was edited on 8/12/21 at 3:45 pm
Posted on 8/12/21 at 3:43 pm to Lsutigerturner
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The other to vaccines do not have any covid in it I don't think???... doesn't it just alter your DNA or the signals? Causing your body to make these protein your body needs to fight covid?
The mRNA vaccines do not have any COVID particle are subunits in them.
They do not alter your DNA and can't.
They tell your body to make the spike protein found on the outside of the virus particles (the stick-like features you see in the images of the virus). This causes an immune response that teaches your body how to attack that specific protein when it sees it in the future.
Posted on 8/12/21 at 4:16 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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can understand someone being hesitant to get the vaccine before it’s approved beyond the emergency authorization, but once it’s gotten that approval it doesn’t make a lot of sense to me why someone would have a problem with it.
Right on dude. Same thing they said about talcum powder and Zantac
Posted on 8/12/21 at 11:08 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Because FDA approval means safe and effective.
But effective doesn't necessarily mean "prevents spread" or "reduces community transmission".
If the beneficial effect is only less-severe symptoms, then that's not a reason for an intrusive public mandate, on its own. (If the trial directly proves less severe symptoms= less contagious, then that could work.
(But I don't think anyone in power wants to admit that being contagious requires outward symptoms. An unseen threat that makes everyone suspicious of everyone else, even when healthy, is too useful of an Alinsky type tool.)
If being vaccinated doesn't reduce the risk I impose on others, then others have no right to demand my vaccination, other than as dogmatic govt obedience.
Especially if they keep hiding and manipulating the natural immunity data.
But effective doesn't necessarily mean "prevents spread" or "reduces community transmission".
If the beneficial effect is only less-severe symptoms, then that's not a reason for an intrusive public mandate, on its own. (If the trial directly proves less severe symptoms= less contagious, then that could work.
(But I don't think anyone in power wants to admit that being contagious requires outward symptoms. An unseen threat that makes everyone suspicious of everyone else, even when healthy, is too useful of an Alinsky type tool.)
If being vaccinated doesn't reduce the risk I impose on others, then others have no right to demand my vaccination, other than as dogmatic govt obedience.
Especially if they keep hiding and manipulating the natural immunity data.
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