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re: LSU Law Baws — RIP Professor Maraist
Posted on 8/12/22 at 6:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 8/12/22 at 6:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:She came and talked to our 3rd year class right before we chose classes (I guess we were still 2Ls then). Anyway, she seemed nice, and her Tax class sounded interesting. Ended up being my lowest-ever grade. Bottom of the class 1.0. Think I was like 71 out of 71 or something. Not her fault though. Tax law has always been a struggle for me.
Kalinka doesn't get enough love
Weird thing was that John Baker was teaching his Conflicts class at the same time, and everyone warned me not to take it. Ended up enrolling anyway and grabbed the top 2 spot (right behind a current MDLA judge).
My introduction to law school was sitting down in Contracts with Litvinoff (RIP) then heading to Maraist's tort class. Wasn't sure what I had gotten myself into those first few weeks. Two legends of the legal profession, and they will be missed.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 7:01 pm to FCP
I took him for Admiralty. He talked fast alright, but was a good teacher. We ended up being neighbors for years. Good guy.
Maraist, along with Litvinoff, Crawford, Bockrath, Mengis and Pugh were my favorite professors.
Maraist, along with Litvinoff, Crawford, Bockrath, Mengis and Pugh were my favorite professors.
This post was edited on 8/12/22 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 8/12/22 at 7:02 pm to lionward2014
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Baier was a narcissistic, liberal douchebag who thought the ground he walked on should be worshipped.
Oh for frick's sake...
I wrote a paper in one of his seminars lambasting a SCOTUS opinion holding that school student organizations, particularly religious organizations, had to accept people who not only diametrically opposed their goals, but actively wanted to subvert the goals of the organization. Baier fricking loved it. Spent many an hour discussing it with me. Even described it glowingly to then Chancellor Weiss, who fricking hated it
Baier loved the law and didn't understand why everyone else didn't.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 7:08 pm to SlowFlowPro
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In my 3 years there, Bowers is the only professor I had who made his class think abstractly to derive the correct argument.
If he had a warning sign/meme, it would start Memorization gunners HATE him
I don't know when you were there, but when I had him for contracts, he just fricking rambled. And anyone who graduated with me can tell you I was anything but a memorization gunner. Or a gunner of any stripe whatsoever
Posted on 8/12/22 at 7:28 pm to JudgeHolden
Sorry to hear that. I never had him as a professor, but I remember him well from LSU Law School. He was one of the legends. RIP.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 7:33 pm to SlowFlowPro
Kalinka was awesome. (I say that doing well in her Tax 1 and not so hot in International Tax)
When I first graduated, her husband and I worked at the same place.
She'd always have him come check and make sure I was doing ok.
Her and Mr David would pay for students applications fees when they'd apply for admission to get their tax LLMs. That's next level in today's world.
When I first graduated, her husband and I worked at the same place.
She'd always have him come check and make sure I was doing ok.
Her and Mr David would pay for students applications fees when they'd apply for admission to get their tax LLMs. That's next level in today's world.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 7:53 pm to JudgeHolden
Louisiana Legal Legend and great gentleman. RIP
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:02 pm to lionward2014
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Baier was a narcissistic, liberal douchebag who thought the ground he walked on should be worshipped. Ended up getting the second highest grade in his Con Law 2 class, one of my proudest law school accomplishments.
Baier once told our class he pulled over to the side of the road once to interact/pet some cows in the side of (I think) River Road. Says the cows saw him and started walking away so MF’er screams at them with his fist in the air “hamburgers.” I still yell “hamburgers” at cows all these years later.
This post was edited on 8/13/22 at 6:41 am
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:11 pm to theronswanson
Ahh good times, (not) I hated damn near every minute at the place, they were mostly pricks the minute we got there until the day we left. i was there when the bottom third academically excluded. Frank was section 3 where I had tons of friends and I was section 1, so I don’t think I ever had him. But all my buddies who survived like him, and he was always nice to me. He was cool after your first year, most of the professors were not and people will be pissing on their graves. Katherine Spath got hate mail after she had a heart attack. She was a terrible bitch the whole damn time.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:12 pm to Joshjrn
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I wrote a paper in one of his seminars lambasting a SCOTUS opinion holding that school student organizations, particularly religious organizations, had to accept people who not only diametrically opposed their goals, but actively wanted to subvert the goals of the organization. Baier fricking loved it. Spent many an hour discussing it with me. Even described it glowingly to then Chancellor Weiss, who fricking hated it
He loved my final discussing the legal holes in Kennedy’s reasoning in Obergefell, but doesn’t negate the other bullshite.
Still remember the 2 week period of him calling me an idiot for siding with the majority in Burns Baking v Bryan case.
This post was edited on 8/12/22 at 8:13 pm
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:15 pm to TutHillTiger
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I hated damn near every minute at the place, they were mostly pricks the minute we got there until the day we left.
Same here. With a few exceptions, yes.
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Katherine Spath got hate mail after she had a heart attack. She was a terrible bitch the whole damn time.
Yep. She was the worst.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:26 pm to JudgeHolden
I somehow got through his shite and today is the first day I've ever seen his name spelled that way....
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:28 pm to FCP
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Litvinoff
Had him for Obligations and made the mistake of sitting in his direct line of sight on the first day of class. Needless to say, I was called upon frequently for the rest of the class, no matter where I sat.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:29 pm to JudgeHolden
Please honor him. Sad to hear. Great professor that I never could take but loved many others that some did not. Susan Kalinka was wonderful and fought for all of her students.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:42 pm to JudgeHolden
Alright, discussions of other professors aside, I'm going to tell my all time favorite Maraist anecdote, because I want the story to outlive me:
There was a girl in our class that routinely would come in late, fall asleep, etc. When she would walk in, he would stop mid-sentence and watch her walk to her seat before continuing his thought. At some point, he decided this wasn't having the desired effect, so one day when she walked in late, he stopped mid-sentence and said, to the best of my recollection now many years later:
"There was once an old cajun farmer who was riding into town on a horse drawn wagon with his wife sitting next to him on the bench. While they were traveling, the horse saw something that caused it to rear up. The old man got out of his seat without saying a word, walked in front of the horse, looked it straight in the eye and said 'that's one'. The old man climbed back up into his seat, snapped the reins, and they continued on. A bit later, the horse reared up again. Old man got down, looked the horse in the eye and said 'that's two'. Got back up, continued along. Horse reared up a third time. Old man got down, pulled out his revolver and shot the horse in the head, dropping it dead where he stood.
As soon as the echo of the shot ended, his wife started screaming at him, asking what the hell was wrong with him, and what on earth they were going to do out in the middle of nowhere with no horse to pull the wagon. The old man climbed back into his seat, looked his wife in the eye and said 'that's one'".
Maraist paused for a second, looked her straight in the eye and said "young lady, that's one".
A little later in the semester, she fell asleep (again). Maraist walked up to her, nudged her awake, and said "young lady, that's two."
Unfortunately, the semester ended before we ever had the privilege of hearing Maraist get to three, but I will never in my life forget the look on that girl's face when, at the end of this meandering story, he looked her in the eye and said "that's one"
There was a girl in our class that routinely would come in late, fall asleep, etc. When she would walk in, he would stop mid-sentence and watch her walk to her seat before continuing his thought. At some point, he decided this wasn't having the desired effect, so one day when she walked in late, he stopped mid-sentence and said, to the best of my recollection now many years later:
"There was once an old cajun farmer who was riding into town on a horse drawn wagon with his wife sitting next to him on the bench. While they were traveling, the horse saw something that caused it to rear up. The old man got out of his seat without saying a word, walked in front of the horse, looked it straight in the eye and said 'that's one'. The old man climbed back up into his seat, snapped the reins, and they continued on. A bit later, the horse reared up again. Old man got down, looked the horse in the eye and said 'that's two'. Got back up, continued along. Horse reared up a third time. Old man got down, pulled out his revolver and shot the horse in the head, dropping it dead where he stood.
As soon as the echo of the shot ended, his wife started screaming at him, asking what the hell was wrong with him, and what on earth they were going to do out in the middle of nowhere with no horse to pull the wagon. The old man climbed back into his seat, looked his wife in the eye and said 'that's one'".
Maraist paused for a second, looked her straight in the eye and said "young lady, that's one".
A little later in the semester, she fell asleep (again). Maraist walked up to her, nudged her awake, and said "young lady, that's two."
Unfortunately, the semester ended before we ever had the privilege of hearing Maraist get to three, but I will never in my life forget the look on that girl's face when, at the end of this meandering story, he looked her in the eye and said "that's one"
Posted on 8/12/22 at 8:51 pm to LSULaw2009
quote:
Kalinka was awesome. (I say that doing well in her Tax 1 and not so hot in International Tax)
When I first graduated, her husband and I worked at the same place.
She'd always have him come check and make sure I was doing ok.
Her and Mr David would pay for students applications fees when they'd apply for admission to get their tax LLMs. That's next level in today's world.
Kalinka was so nice.
After my presentation in tax policy she told me I should be on moot court and was 100% serious.
One time I randomly ran into her during 3L year and she asked me where I was applying. I was like what? She then clarified: "NYU? Georgetown? or Florida?" (for those that don't know, these were/are the top 3 tax LLM programs and where most of the people who did 3+ tax classes w Kalinka were going after graduation). I laughed and told her that I was a terrible student in her classes and she legit was serious and told me, "You took 4 Kalinka classes. I will write you a recommendation wherever you want and that should get you in." (Again, for those that don't know, LSU law actually had a good reputation with the top tax LLM programs).
It was just shocking b/c she was so nice and sincere and really wanted me to go get a tax LLM. I wasn't good as a student, didn't participate, etc. but she genuinely cared and wanted her students to continue learning about tax law.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:07 pm to SlowFlowPro
I scheduled a tax class once. Bought the book, showed up to the first day... and dropped the class while sitting in there. I could tell in the first five minutes that shite wasn't going to be for me
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:15 pm to Joshjrn
After the international tax final I was outside and ended up consoling like 3-4 female friends who were crying. All top notch students who had taken 3+ Kalinka classes with me. I didn't give a frick about grades at that point but that test was a MONSTER. Open book, open note, etc.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
Yeah international tax was not one of my finer moments (tied for my lowest grade in law school).
My favorite Baier moment has to be when he took us to watch an argument before the La. supreme Court for his Advanced Appellate Advocacy seminar. After the arguments, he took us to Napoleon House and bought us all a round of pims cups.
My favorite Baier moment has to be when he took us to watch an argument before the La. supreme Court for his Advanced Appellate Advocacy seminar. After the arguments, he took us to Napoleon House and bought us all a round of pims cups.
Posted on 8/12/22 at 9:23 pm to SlowFlowPro
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I didn't give a frick about grades at that point but that test was a MONSTER. Open book, open note, etc.
I took bankruptcy with Louis Phillips and had a similar experience. Final was an 18 page fact pattern with a single word for the final sentence. “Discuss.”
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