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re: LSU having to deal with a “free speech” versus “hate speech” issue

Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:48 pm to
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
137764 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:48 pm to
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That kid's dad is definitely a member of the poliboard


For the Nguyen
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
11512 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:49 pm to
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LSU is a public university governed fully by the First Amendment. As a government body, LSU cannot sanction a student, faculty member, or other employee for expression that is protected by the First Amendment. There is no hate speech exception to the First Amendment, so while the expression referred to in the original post is deeply offensive and hateful, it is fully protected. The student is fully entitled to the admission that has been granted by the university.

That doesn't mean that people cannot express their own views about his expression and stand in opposition to what he said. Individuals should not be subject to harassment, but those who object to what was said also have a right to free expression and can state that they object.


The U.S. Supreme Court has repeatedly ruled that hate speech is legally protected free speech under the First Amendment.
Posted by rantfan
new iberia la
Member since Nov 2012
14110 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:50 pm to
Hate speech is also free speech. You do have the right to hate . I would not advise it but that's part of free will.
Posted by gillian
Member since May 2017
303 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:57 pm to
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LSU has rescinded his admittance


Look, what the guy said is really offensive, and he deserves serious criticism.

With that said, he cannot be punished by the university for speech that is protected by the First Amendment. If he has had his admission revoked, and if he is really committed to attending LSU, he should contact the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE), which takes on colleges and universities that violate the free speech rights of students and faculty. I hate what the guy said, and he deserves to be called out for it, but as someone else said there is no hate speech exception to the First Amendment.
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
144496 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:59 pm to
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You were in prison
negative
Posted by YeahYeah
Member since Jun 2016
2248 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 9:59 pm to
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he should contact the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education (FIRE),

As weird as it might sound, the ACLU should support him as well.

Several years ago they provided legal assistance to a high school student who was suspended for wearing a Confederate Flag belt buckle.
Posted by Upperdecker
St. George, LA
Member since Nov 2014
31802 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:09 pm to
It’s well known you were in prison. No use denying it
Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
28404 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:14 pm to
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What is hate speech? Thought the Supreme Court said there was no such thing?


They said pretty much the opposite. They held there is no 1st amendment exception for hate speech.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
21685 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:16 pm to
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LSU has rescinded his admittance

No they haven't.
Posted by lucki98
Thibodaux, la
Member since Aug 2014
808 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:23 pm to
I think all the black athletes should quit the teams and transfer. I bet lsu would find a reason then to deny his application! I bet most of you won’t try to defend his freedom of speech then!
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
61307 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:25 pm to
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I think all the black athletes should quit the teams and transfer. I bet lsu would find a reason then to deny his application! I bet most of you won’t try to defend his freedom of speech then!


People on Twitter are tagging all former LSU athletes and personalities. Freaking pot stirrers
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
31964 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:30 pm to
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I think all the black athletes should quit the teams and transfer. I bet lsu would find a reason then to deny his application! I bet most of you won’t try to defend his freedom of speech then!



I love LSU sports as much or more than most, but I would refuse to be held hostage over it.

I would go all Keyser Soze and tell them to frick right off.
Posted by doya2
Charenton
Member since Jan 2005
8246 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 10:55 pm to
Admission has been rescinded
Posted by SuperSaint
Sorting Out OT BS Since '2007'
Member since Sep 2007
144496 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 11:06 pm to
quote:

It’s well known you were in prison. No use denying it
okay


You mean the 60 days in parish prison for probation violation?
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 11:15 pm to
Link?
Posted by Char Aznable
Member since Dec 2016
250 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 11:19 pm to
i have no idea whats going on but if you look at the black lsu topic on twitter it looks like this whole issue has somehow turned into an LSU vs SU debate lol
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
11512 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 11:24 pm to
15-0 bitches!
Posted by tigerskin
Member since Nov 2004
43085 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 11:24 pm to
The Southern folks give the LSU black students hell about not going to an HBCU. The LSU students respond by saying they are trying to get a better education......haha
This post was edited on 6/7/20 at 11:25 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
31964 posts
Posted on 6/7/20 at 11:29 pm to
Anyone that posts about “black LSU” doesn’t have the right to lecture anyone about racial issues.
Posted by Sidicous
NELA
Member since Aug 2015
18624 posts
Posted on 6/8/20 at 12:01 am to
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I got a feeling this dude is going to decide to go court and never have to work a day in his life with the settlement.

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