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re: Louisiana officially canceling Mid-Barataria Diversion, state's biggest coastal project
Posted on 7/19/25 at 1:10 pm to GREENHEAD22
Posted on 7/19/25 at 1:10 pm to GREENHEAD22
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Or set outflows at certain heights in the levee so when the river is high it let's out water but not when it's low to minimize effect on the channel. Oh wait, that was what this project was.
And to do that would cost $3 Billion Dollars???
Posted on 7/19/25 at 1:15 pm to hawkster
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And to do that would cost $3 Billion Dollars???
You have to mitigate the risk of the outflow cutting a new channel.
And reroute all the existing logistics in the path.
Yes. It is expensive to do it the right way and give all those against the project less to bitch about.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 1:26 pm to LegendInMyMind
quote:besides all the money you're gonna have to pay the contractor for canceling, and the millions already spent planning this. Then what ever is left has to be spent on a lesser diversion project 10 years from now
Good news: You save that money now.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 5:36 pm to LSUDAN1
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Time to just get rid of the levees and let nature take back over.
I wondered why they couldn’t just do that for the area south of NOLA that will inevitably turn to Gulf anyway. I’m sure there is a logical reason. Maybe it makes it more difficult to navigate the River near the mouth. No idea.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 5:46 pm to fightin tigers
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Yes. It is expensive to do it the right way and give all those against the project less to bitch about.
Unfortunately, they couldn’t “give” enough to those against the project.
Posted on 7/19/25 at 6:50 pm to Tarps99
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That is over the life of the entire projected lifespan of the project. But Louisiana is expected to lose more than that. That is like spinning a slot machine for 25 dollars and winning 10 dollars back.
Again, that’s net land gain.
That means net, we stop losing land.
Now without this project, what is our land loss going to be?
We were not doing this to build land. We were going this to stop land loss.
This post was edited on 7/19/25 at 6:52 pm
Posted on 7/19/25 at 10:21 pm to pelicanpride
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I’m sure there is a logical reason. Maybe it makes it more difficult to navigate the River near the mouth. No idea.
A lot of this. The river goes slower if they let the river out before head of pass/south pass. Slower river means more sediment dropped. More dredging to keep the main pass open.
Posted on 7/20/25 at 9:22 am to fightin tigers
It also means more saltwater intrusion upstream. Municipal water intakes are at threat, as are industrial and energy plants.
Posted on 7/20/25 at 9:41 am to Tarps99
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Unfortunately, they couldn’t “give” enough to those against the project.
Well it kind of helps the opposition when the sitting Governor made a promise to kill the project in exchange for an easier election path.
Posted on 7/20/25 at 9:43 am to crewdepoo
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quote: Good news: You save that money now. besides all the money you're gonna have to pay the contractor for canceling, and the millions already spent planning this. Then what ever is left has to be spent on a lesser diversion project 10 years from now
Have they even resolved whether the fed money already used needs to be repaid?
Posted on 7/20/25 at 9:50 am to lsuconnman
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Have they even resolved whether the fed money already used needs to be repaid?
It's my understanding the feds money and BP money is going to be re allocated to the Myrtle Grove Diversion Project...so the the Mid Barataria Project might be dead they are still forward on the smaller Myrtle Grove Project
Posted on 7/20/25 at 9:56 am to ChatGPT of LA
Some Baw at the Naval Air Station needs to fly about 5 miles south and accidentally drop some ordinance directly on the levee at Jesuit bend. Mother nature will start to heal its coastline.
Unfortunately I think Nunguesser may live a little up the road from there. So may need to accidentally make two drops to save Louisiana
Unfortunately I think Nunguesser may live a little up the road from there. So may need to accidentally make two drops to save Louisiana
Posted on 7/20/25 at 12:35 pm to lsuconnman
quote:id assume the amount paid to contractor would need to be repaid. Not sure about all the Engineering and design. Sure there will be lawsuits.
Have they even resolved whether the fed money already used needs to be repaid?
Posted on 7/21/25 at 8:16 am to crewdepoo
Jumping into this a few days late but a couple of things to unpack here. The land gain looks insignificant until you take into account the reversal of land loss. Places like this cannot gain land until they reverse the land loss - which this project would have done. It was also part of a larger plan that is now in the shitter.
For all of the yahoos that talk about our money or we are saving money - just stop. It is not any of our money - this is BP oil spill money that is managed by a trust and allocated to coastal land projects in gulf states - Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida. At the end of the day - this was a 3 billion dollar construction project that the taxpayers of Louisiana were not paying for. Now - who is responsible for the half of a billion that has already been spent for nothing? There is so much to unpack on this and none of it good.
For all of the yahoos that talk about our money or we are saving money - just stop. It is not any of our money - this is BP oil spill money that is managed by a trust and allocated to coastal land projects in gulf states - Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida. At the end of the day - this was a 3 billion dollar construction project that the taxpayers of Louisiana were not paying for. Now - who is responsible for the half of a billion that has already been spent for nothing? There is so much to unpack on this and none of it good.
Posted on 7/21/25 at 8:22 am to lsuchip30
I’m not to an engineer or an expert in flood prevention or coastal restoration, but common sense tells me that gifted three billion dollars, La. should be able to come up with a plan to better our state and not waste the money.
Unfortunately we could not,
Unfortunately we could not,
Posted on 7/21/25 at 8:22 am to lsuchip30
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The land gain looks insignificant until you take into account the reversal of land loss. Places like this cannot gain land until they reverse the land loss - which this project would have done. It was also part of a larger plan that is now in the shitter.
For all of the yahoos that talk about our money or we are saving money - just stop. It is not any of our money - this is BP oil spill money that is managed by a trust and allocated to coastal land projects in gulf states - Texas, Louisiana, Mississippi, Alabama, and Florida. At the end of the day - this was a 3 billion dollar construction project that the taxpayers of Louisiana were not paying for.
Thank you.
Posted on 7/21/25 at 8:25 am to lsuchip30
The fact that 500 million has already been spent with little to no progress in a very long time frame should tell you all you need to know about this project and LA politics.
Posted on 7/21/25 at 8:27 am to doubleb
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I’m not to an engineer or an expert in flood prevention or coastal restoration, but common sense tells me that gifted three billion dollars, La. should be able to come up with a plan to better our state and not waste the money.
Unfortunately we could not,
Correct - and such a shame.
No matter where any of the "experts" stood on the correct or incorrect way to both negate land loss and then subsequently build land, this was a 3 billion dollar construction project. Taxpayers were not paying for this. This would have boosted the local economy south of New Orleans and into New Orleans - providing the state and local economies with tax revenue. Now that is gone, along with over 600 billion dollars that has already been spent that the trust might just demand be repaid.
Posted on 7/21/25 at 8:33 am to doubleb
Huey P Long
Earl Long
Leander Perez
Edwin Edwards
Billy Tauzin
William Jefferson
Landrieu Family
Nungesser Family
John Alario
Francis Thompson
Cedric Glover
LaToya Cantrell
Bob Odom
John Bel Edwards
Jeff Landry
What in the heck could have given you any sort of hope?
Earl Long
Leander Perez
Edwin Edwards
Billy Tauzin
William Jefferson
Landrieu Family
Nungesser Family
John Alario
Francis Thompson
Cedric Glover
LaToya Cantrell
Bob Odom
John Bel Edwards
Jeff Landry
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common sense tells me that gifted three billion dollars, La. should be able to come up with a plan to better our state and not waste the money.
Unfortunately we could not,
What in the heck could have given you any sort of hope?
Posted on 7/21/25 at 8:57 am to lsuchip30
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The land gain looks insignificant until you take into account the reversal of land loss.
You ever had oysters so good you stopped giving a shite about the land loss?
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