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re: Louisiana officially canceling Mid-Barataria Diversion, state's biggest coastal project

Posted on 7/18/25 at 9:34 am to
Posted by HeadCall
Member since Feb 2025
5715 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 9:34 am to
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This was the expected outcome once Landry and Nungesser got in the Capitol. They are taking a short-sighted self-enriching solution to a long-term existential problem for Louisiana. As the saying goes, elections have consequences.


The only thing that would rebuild our coastal waters would be tearing down all the levies and demolishing the ORC. Everything else is a waste of time. So unless you’re will to do all of that then don’t whine about our wetlands.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53818 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 9:38 am to
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You own land, have any equity? You are willing to walk away with empty-handed, because this is what will happen. Are you hoping the state or federal government will swope in to give you a buy-out?


I’m inside the flood protection
Posted by Hobie101
Member since May 2012
898 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 10:18 am to
Pathetic
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
11671 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 10:19 am to
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One day the gulf will be at Belle chase, Lafitte and Larose


Fun fact…It is already there.

The water can be pretty salty that far inland, but the only good thing is on one day you can catch a bass in those areas and the next day catch a red fish.
Posted by UnluckyTiger
Member since Sep 2003
41850 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 10:26 am to
Is it safe to assume Grand Isle will be under water in another 25 years?
Posted by Weekend Warrior79
Member since Aug 2014
20823 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 10:35 am to
Am I mixing up projects, but isn't one of the bigger issues with the rising cost was the cost was determined several years ago, then they started the next phase or 2 of the next study and realized the $3B would not go as far as the original study suggested because they took too long to actually start doing anything?
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
54191 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 10:37 am to
I’m just waiting to cash in when I have gulf front property one day if I’m still alive
Posted by bulletprooftiger
Member since Aug 2006
2412 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 10:42 am to
The biggest joke is that the same Plaquemines Parish lawyers that are involved in the suits against the oil companies for the damage done to the coast also represent the oystermen who killed this coastal restoration project.
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17204 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 10:48 am to
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Am I mixing up projects, but isn't one of the bigger issues with the rising cost was the cost was determined several years ago, then they started the next phase or 2 of the next study and realized the $3B would not go as far as the original study suggested because they took too long to actually start doing anything?

The $3B was the most recent cost estimate. I think original cost was $1.8B which jumped to $3B.
Posted by freshtigerbait
Somewhere
Member since Oct 2023
599 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 10:50 am to
I have a firm belief that a lot of people's pockets are getting lined with this money

Regardless, this is once again man so in love with greed that we forgotten that we are fleas on a damn dog and that dog can shake us off at any time and any place.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
11671 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 10:58 am to
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Is it safe to assume Grand Isle will be under water in another 25 years?


They have been saying that since the 1970's, and it is still there.

The islands if built and protected can be geologically stable. The sand does move with the current which is why places like Terrebonne's island chain has vanished into the gulf because there is nothing to protect them. The state goes in and rebuilds the island but they don't put enough hard materials to quell the wave action or allow plantlife to grow into a sustainable island with massive sand dunes like other areas.

The marshlands that are between the highlands and protected lands is where most land loss is occuring. Most of that land has turned into floaton marsh and gets pushed and moved around after a hurricane until it becomes open water.

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I have a firm belief that a lot of people's pockets are getting lined with this money

Regardless, this is once again man so in love with greed that we forgotten that we are fleas on a damn dog and that dog can shake us off at any time and any place.


I think there is greed on both sides of this equation. You have the environmentalists that were going to cash in on all the studies after the project was built, all the construciton firms building the project cashing in, and you also have the engineers making money too. Also, you have the lawyers on both sides making money too. The ones that are really going to get screwed were the fishermen, they were the ones that had to most to gain with the project going forward because within the 3 billion were dollars earmarked that were going to pay them for losses incurred, but no telling how convoluted that system to make them whole was going to be.

The only ones making money on this are attorneys and engineers. The longer the parties keep dragging this one the longer the attorneys and engineers keep billing until there is nothing left.
This post was edited on 7/18/25 at 11:06 am
Posted by Hobie101
Member since May 2012
898 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 11:26 am to
We’ll let the state sink into the ocean, but yall better not use the wrong pronouns!
Posted by ragincajun03
Member since Nov 2007
27683 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 12:25 pm to
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the same Plaquemines Parish lawyers that are involved in the suits against the oil companies for the damage done to the coast also represent the oystermen who killed this coastal restoration project.


I’m absolutely shocked to hear this news.
Posted by Tree_Fall
Member since Mar 2021
1098 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 12:35 pm to
I wonder what the collateral damage of the cancellation will be ? Tulane, LSU and the Water Institute have all been building Louisiana-based coastal restoration centers of excellence. That reasonable ambition was fueled by solid science outweighing politics and greed. Landy has quickly shown that ambition to be absurd. Enough BP money spent on the smarts. Now a bigger cut will go to the stupids. Follow the Money
Posted by ThatTahoeOverThere
Member since Nov 2021
4687 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 12:38 pm to
Thats a shame
Posted by CatfishJohn
Member since Jun 2020
19068 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 1:15 pm to
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only create 25 mi.² of land in one small area


The fact you think 25 square miles is a small area should negate the rest of your thoughts


My thought as well

That is 16,000 acres. That's a nice chunk of land.
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
11671 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 1:21 pm to
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My thought as well That is 16,000 acres. That's a nice chunk of land.


That is over the life of the entire projected lifespan of the project. But Louisiana is expected to lose more than that.

That is like spinning a slot machine for 25 dollars and winning 10 dollars back.
Posted by Boston911
Lafayette
Member since Dec 2013
2353 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 1:22 pm to
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That is 16,000 acres
pull it up online, the land expected to be built in 50 years is only about 1/8th the size of Barataria Bay,,,,and only in the NE shore,,,then outside of that the rest of the north end of Barataria Bay will still be subject to erosion
Posted by KamaCausey_LSU
Member since Apr 2013
17204 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 1:25 pm to
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That is over the life of the entire projected lifespan of the project. But Louisiana is expected to lose more than that.

That is like spinning a slot machine for 25 dollars and winning 10 dollars back.

Land loss would still happen away from the diversion. But still, according to the design and projections, the MBSD would have resulted in net land gain. So losing $25 but gaining $35, netting +$10 (to use your example.)
This post was edited on 7/18/25 at 1:28 pm
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61386 posts
Posted on 7/18/25 at 1:27 pm to
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Is it safe to assume Grand Isle will be under water in another 25 years?


I’m shocked it hasn’t happened yet and even more amazed at the number of expensive houses that have been built in the last five years.
A decent hurricane at just the right approach point will whipe it all out. And sadly many points far inland will flood badly due wetlands loss.
I don’t know what the solution is, but this sucks.
This post was edited on 7/18/25 at 2:04 pm
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