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re: Louisiana installing 82 more EV charging stations
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:32 am to CarRamrod
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:32 am to CarRamrod
quote:There are numerous companies doing exactly this (Plugless Power, WiTricity, etc), and they charge over something like a 10" air gap.
they need to come out with either something like Qi charging for cars, or a device that automatically plugs in the car when you are in its parking spot at your house. that would be convenient.
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Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:35 am to Korkstand
It is surprising to me that filling stations, especially ones like RaceTrac or similar that try to be a grocery store haven't embraced one or two charging spots.
It's as if they see the chargers as competition. Kind of like watching Kodak turn down the digital camera business. Or Blockbuster say no to Netflix.
It's as if they see the chargers as competition. Kind of like watching Kodak turn down the digital camera business. Or Blockbuster say no to Netflix.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:36 am to CarRamrod
quote:
you have to keep in mind the people that have EVs now arent the normal person. So that data is skewed
Valid point, but I don't think its that far off. People have been conditioned to plug things in already, it'll just take some time for behavior to change. I think people can adapt behavior much faster than EVs will replace ICE, which is at least 20-30 years away.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:38 am to fightin tigers
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It is surprising to me that filling stations, especially ones like RaceTrac or similar that try to be a grocery store haven't embraced one or two charging spots.
It's as if they see the chargers as competition. Kind of like watching Kodak turn down the digital camera business. Or Blockbuster say no to Netflix.
The smart will survive. Truck stops/Bucees seem like a no brainer, but most have been resistant to change. They won't feel that way the next time they try to get some money and no one will give it to them because they slept on this opportunity.
This post was edited on 8/23/21 at 11:39 am
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:43 am to billjamin
We really should standardize on a handful of pack designs, or maybe a modular/scalable design, so that battery swap stations could start popping up.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:45 am to Korkstand
Think the Rimac has done this, but I believe faster charging is the better option.
Current batteries are heavy as frick
Current batteries are heavy as frick
This post was edited on 8/23/21 at 11:46 am
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:49 am to fightin tigers
quote:
It is surprising to me that filling stations, especially ones like RaceTrac or similar that try to be a grocery store haven't embraced one or two charging spots.
Most gas stations are leased. The issue with this is that the operator would make any money off of the EV charger, not the owner, because of the way the contracts are written. The operator won't pay to install the chargers because they are just cheap. The owner won't do it because they don't get the money of it.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:49 am to member12
Charging stations are sprinkled about today (googleTesla charging stations eg)
They will be showing up at Retail fuel stations and well beyond next several years
Big earl is partnering w/auto OEMs for integrated solutions (EV, payment systems, etc).
China and Europe ahead on this. Lots of city charging (city light poles), large residential complexes (apt blogs), shopping areas, etc.
They will be showing up at Retail fuel stations and well beyond next several years
Big earl is partnering w/auto OEMs for integrated solutions (EV, payment systems, etc).
China and Europe ahead on this. Lots of city charging (city light poles), large residential complexes (apt blogs), shopping areas, etc.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 11:49 am to fightin tigers
quote:Maybe, but how fast can we go? There are safety and battery life concerns with ultra fast charging, might require some big battery tech advances to do much better than current supercharging rates.
I believe faster charging is the better option.
I think a mix of fast charging, battery swaps, and in-motion wireless charging will be required to completely eliminate this knock against EVs.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:26 pm to Topwater Trout
quote:It really depends on quite a few things.
My BIL says it takes him 30 min to fully charge...not sure if this has improved.
If you're charging from almost 0 and going to 100%, yea it can take up to 45 minutes but that'll almost never happen.
if you're going supercharging station to station, you don't have to charge up to 100%, you just need enough charge to get you to the next station which takes 10-15 minutes on average.
quote:A hurricane and possible evacuation should never really come as a surprise, so charging your car to 100% should certainly be on the agenda to be prepared for evacuating.
The last major evac from S. La I heard people stuck in traffic for 10-12 hours just to get to BR.
Being stuck 10-12 hours would probably net a loss of about 20-25 miles, like I originally said, you lose a few miles but I don't see how that is really an issue since you should be fully charged or close to start.
quote:You can charge at home.
If people are l4eaving and need to charge what kind of back up do you think that will be at charging stations.
It's kinda the same where you're highly unlikely to start your evaucation in an ICE vehicle with a quarter of a tank because you know want to get out and not have to exit an interstate traffic jam to get gas and wait in a long line and hope that the gas station doesn't run out of gas. That likely doesn't happen because you're going to get gas ahead of time and be prepared to evacuate.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:28 pm to The Boat
quote:For probably most families with a couple of kids, you're right, people don't realize the time difference isn't that much once you factor in stops to the bathroom and stops to eat.
The people who bitch about having to stop and charge so often forget their wife probably has to stop and pee even more often than that. It’s not like people in gas vehicles are making a non stop haul across the country on a road trip.
We take a 10 hour trip each year, 2 kids under 10 years old. Once you factor in the stops for a charge compared to food/bathroom breaks, I'm fairly certainly we maybe add 30-45 minutes to our trip at the most by using an EV.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:31 pm to squid_hunt
quote:
Creating solutions to problems nobody has?
Do you have any idea how much of your daily life is reliable on the equipment that orbits our planet?
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:41 pm to fightin tigers
quote:well battery tech has been lagging for decades.
Think the Rimac has done this, but I believe faster charging is the better option.
Current batteries are heavy as frick
I think we shoul djust pump money into making a Mr. Fusion and call it a day.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:46 pm to member12
Why is $1.7 million being spent on this? What benefit are we getting by having 82 more charging stations in the state besides convenience for some EV owners.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:53 pm to member12
If you run out gas in your car, someone can bring you a can of gas. Nobody can bring you a can of battery.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:56 pm to Commander Rabb
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If you run out gas in your car, someone can bring you a can of gas. Nobody can bring you a can of battery.
I just let me horse eat some grass on the side of the trail and I'm good to go again. Don't need anyone to bring me anything.
This post was edited on 8/23/21 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 8/23/21 at 12:56 pm to BurningHeart
quote:
Why is $1.7 million being spent on this? What benefit are we getting by having 82 more charging stations in the state besides convenience for some EV owners.
Because they had to.
quote:
About the Louisiana Volkswagen Environmental Mitigation Trust
As part of a settlement, states are eligible to receive funds to pay all or part of the cost of projects to reduce emissions from diesel vehicles and to install electric vehicle charging stations.
$12 million is being used to replace old school buses with more efficient diesel engines or alternative fuel (propane or natural gas) engines.
This post was edited on 8/23/21 at 1:05 pm
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:00 pm to shel311
quote:
I'm fairly certainly we maybe add 30-45 minutes to our trip at the most by using an EV.
but how much time do you save in a year by charging at home and not having to go to gas stations for fill ups, removing 45 minutes delay for the once a year trip.
Posted on 8/23/21 at 1:02 pm to AMS
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but how much time do you save in a year by charging at home and not having to go to gas stations for fill ups, removing 45 minutes delay for the once a year trip.
Gas station timing savings
Extra days of life from not having gas station snacks
Tax savings from the current fuel tax model
Extra happiness because EVs are actually fun to drive
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