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re: Louisiana COVID-19 - June 30, 2020 Update: 58,095 cases - 3,113 deaths - 728,511 tested

Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:55 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481251 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:55 pm to
quote:

There were no riots in Lafayette, Lake Charles and Shreveport. You can put that talking point away.

there were multiple protests in LC

i don't even think the reports/studies about protesting not causing an increase say the protests didn't cause spread, they argue that the protests scaring a huge population off the streets caused an offset that didn't lead to net spread
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46784 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:56 pm to
quote:

they argue that the protests scaring a huge population off the streets caused an offset that didn't lead to net spread



lolwut?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481251 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:57 pm to
NBC

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Using COVID-19 case counts from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and data from SafeGraph, a company that collects anonymous cellphone data to show the movement of populations, the researchers were able to look at not only how cases of COVID-19 were trending in various cities but also how the protests affected the behavior of those who did not participate.

The researchers actually found a relative increase in stay-at-home behaviors by those not attending protests after they began in a city, with people really starting to stay at home by the third day of the protests.

In the paper, the authors suggested that this increase in staying at home may have offset the decrease in social distancing observed by those participating in protests.
Posted by Sasquatch Smash
Member since Nov 2007
25964 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:58 pm to
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have offset the decrease in social distancing observed by those participating in protests.


So...all is good then? Haha.
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
46784 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:59 pm to
Wow....that's some serious stretching to excuse the impact of the protests.



Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79901 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 1:59 pm to
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In the paper, the authors suggested that this increase in staying at home may have offset the decrease in social distancing observed by those participating in protests.


We could have beat this already had their not been protest
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49580 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:00 pm to
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There were no riots in Lafayette



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Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
481251 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:00 pm to
it's also not a real study and even admits there was likely spread among the protesting population

the big thing seems to be yutes being social inside (like bars) and spreading it among themselves and then to family at home
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79901 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:02 pm to
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it's also not a real study and even admits there was likely spread among the protesting population



Everytime someone has linked that study showing no increase those two caveats are the first thing I look for.

The people who did the study basically said that there was spread, but othet factors caused a case increase not to happen.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
132708 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

i don't even think the reports/studies about protesting not causing an increase say the protests didn't cause spread, they argue that the protests scaring a huge population off the streets caused an offset that didn't lead to net spread


Eh, people were only scared off the streets in tiny parts of a few cities. They just went out and did their thing in the parts of the city not full of morons
This post was edited on 6/30/20 at 2:12 pm
Posted by BiggerBear
Redbone Country
Member since Sep 2011
3165 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:05 pm to
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The sad part of data is that these decision makers will pick on the attribute that will suit them.


LOL. The sad part is that everyone will pick on the attribute that will suit them, and supply whatever "context" supports their views.
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79901 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:11 pm to
quote:

, people were only scared off the streets in tiny parts of a few cities. The just went out and did their thing in the parts of the city not full of morons


One of the 'studies' used cellphone data to show less movement
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
26357 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:14 pm to
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Ochsner health, across all of our system, has only 55 covid patients right now....

Is that public info you want to be sharing?
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
132708 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:15 pm to
quote:

Is that public info you want to be sharing?


Why not?
Posted by SlidellCajun
Slidell la
Member since May 2019
16961 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:16 pm to
What’s the ratio of total hospitalized for total active cases and then you’ll know if there’s cause for alarm.

Also, check out the ratio of new cases to total new hospitalizations.

It all points to the fact that the current wave of cases is amongst the young who are able to handle it.

As long as the older folks take the necessary precautions, it should be okay
Posted by hendersonshands
Univ. of Louisiana Ragin Cajuns
Member since Oct 2007
160203 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:27 pm to
None of those were riots
Posted by fightin tigers
Downtown Prairieville
Member since Mar 2008
79901 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:39 pm to
quote:

What’s the ratio of total hospitalized for total active cases and then you’ll know if there’s cause for alarm.

Also, check out the ratio of new cases to total new hospitalizations.

It all points to the fact that the current wave of cases is amongst the young who are able to handle it.


If hospitalization didn't lag from diagnosis and infection this info would be a lot more useful. The 7-14 day lag in both of these categories means we are constantly guessing what is going to happen instead of knowing.
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
40276 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:51 pm to
pride what % of beds does Ochsner have in Louisiana?? Just curious.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112637 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

Is that public info you want to be sharing?
You think that kinda stuff is private?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
112637 posts
Posted on 6/30/20 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

pride what % of beds does Ochsner have in Louisiana?? Just curious.
No idea
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