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re: Louisiana COVID-19 - June 22, 2020 Update: 50,239 cases - 3,004 deaths - 618,064 tested

Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37596 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:15 pm to
Why are we even posting the total number of cases reported?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37596 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:17 pm to
You’re stuck on the nails done and people getting haircuts. Do those jobs not matter to you?
Posted by IntenseSaint
Member since May 2020
89 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:18 pm to
It should be total number of active cases. When you look at how much money you currently have, you don't tally up all the money you have ever earned and say that is how much you have.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37596 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:18 pm to
But that number is way less scary than 50,000
Posted by tiger91
In my own little world
Member since Nov 2005
36763 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:20 pm to
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Now that number is increasing you don't buy it?


I'm not sure that I trust any of the numbers.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3021 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:20 pm to
Confirmed positives in the 19-29 age bracket ballooning. Should cause fatality rate (as measured) to plummet. For the longest time if you looked at the LDH website it looked like the largest demographic in Louisiana is 50-59 year olds, and that there was 10x more of those than 20-somethings.

I suspect the growth in hospitalizations is being driven by SWLA and Acadiana since those areas really haven’t seen their vulnerable population take a hit yet. But, no reason Lake Chuck couldn’t stock up in enough PPE to be able to take it by now.
Posted by LSUJML
BR
Member since May 2008
46396 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:22 pm to
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I'm not sure that I trust any of the numbers.


There’s no way there were only 1600 duplicates or whatever the corrected # was last week
Posted by MiloDanglers
on a dock on a bay
Member since Apr 2012
6546 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:24 pm to
Is it considered a hospitalization only if they are admitted overnight?

Is it considered a hospitalization if they are admitted, treated, prescribed drugs or action, and then discharged to monitor at home? All within, say, 4 hours.

I guess the question is - what is the criteria for “hospitalization” and how are they gathering the information for that data point?
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
23211 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:25 pm to
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Are hospitalizations going up because hospitals are admitting people they wouldn’t normally have to make money?


Based on what I was told, they are testing everyone admitted to the hospital for COVID. If you’re positive, you’re in the hospitalization stats. Regardless of your symptoms or why you’re being admitted.
Posted by Vood
Enjoying a Forty with Lando
Member since Dec 2007
8342 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:25 pm to
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I'm not sure that I trust any of the numbers.



Over the last 2 months I started trusting them less and less. I used to trust the Hospitalizations and Vents numbers more than anything but now I don't even trust those.

It's hard to trust them when you find out that if you go in to have broken arm set, or deliver a baby you are tested and if you test positive you are counted as a Covid-19 patient. Yes you have it but if you were not there and would have not been there without the other purpose then why should you be counted as being hospitalized for Covid?

Lots of stories over the last week showing just how the state is manipulating the numbers. This does not help anyone.
Posted by burdman
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2007
20689 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:26 pm to
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Is it considered a hospitalization only if they are admitted overnight?

Is it considered a hospitalization if they are admitted, treated, prescribed drugs or action, and then discharged to monitor at home? All within, say, 4 hours.


I'd like to know the answer to that too.
Posted by CypressTrout10
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2016
3022 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:28 pm to
A guy I know went to the hospital yesterday because he had mild symptoms. Got released within 3 hours. I wonder if his visit counts
Posted by Tigerfan1274
Member since May 2019
3182 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:28 pm to
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I suspect the growth in hospitalizations is being driven by SWLA and Acadiana since those areas really haven’t seen their vulnerable population take a hit yet. But, no reason Lake Chuck couldn’t stock up in enough PPE to be able to take it by now.


Total Hospitalizations for Region 5 (Calcasieu, Beauregard, Jeff Davis, Allen, and Cameron) is 31. It has fluctuated from 29 to 32 over the last eight days. Acadiana Region is at 70, up from 43 10 days ago.
This post was edited on 6/22/20 at 12:32 pm
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21682 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:32 pm to
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Is it considered a hospitalization if they are admitted, treated, prescribed drugs or action, and then discharged to monitor at home? All within, say, 4 hours.


This is an ER visit, not a hospitalization. All patients admitted to the hospital are designated as an inpatient, or as 24 hour observations and are accompanied by an admitting physician's H&P and orders. If they're counting visits to ERs that are subsequently released home as hospitalizations, that's some frickery.
Posted by gizmothepug
Louisiana
Member since Apr 2015
6639 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:33 pm to
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It's hard to trust them when you find out that if you go in to have broken arm set, or deliver a baby you are tested and if you test positive you are counted as a Covid-19 patient.


Can a patient not refuse the test? If I show up to the ER with a broken leg will they refuse to treat me if I refuse to be tested?
Posted by PentagonTiger
Taylor Hall
Member since Dec 2008
1618 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:34 pm to
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I suspect the growth in hospitalizations is being driven by SWLA and Acadiana since those areas really haven’t seen their vulnerable population take a hit yet. But, no reason Lake Chuck couldn’t stock up in enough PPE to be able to take it by now.


Talked to my sister who is an ICU nurse at Lafayette General. She did say that they are witnessing an increase in patients in their COVID unit which they set up to treat specifically patients who have the flu. She said things started ramping up last week.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120487 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:35 pm to
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That’s not how hospitals make money. Since Obamacare kicked in, hospitals make money by getting people in and out ASAP.


Exactly

You admit a borderline covid case sat 90s on room air, watch them a couple days, discharge, profit
This post was edited on 6/22/20 at 12:35 pm
Posted by LSUJML
BR
Member since May 2008
46396 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:37 pm to
If you don’t have fever & are not showing symptoms I don’t see how they can force the issue

My mom had surgery Friday before last at OLOL & was not tested
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
120487 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:38 pm to
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Talked to my sister who is an ICU nurse


Pics
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95980 posts
Posted on 6/22/20 at 12:39 pm to
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My mom had surgery Friday before last at OLOL & was not tested


Thats likely a break in protocol

I can’t imagine the lake isn’t testing all surgeries and admissions
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