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re: Louisiana COVID-19 - July 13, 2020 Update: 79,827 cases - 3,315 deaths - 953,426 tested

Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:43 pm to
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19015 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:43 pm to
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What does that picture even mean?


It means people bitching about [the accuracy of testing numbers] can now bitch about [the accuracy of testing numbers]^17.
Posted by BRIllini07
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2015
3211 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:44 pm to
Agree we’re using the vent less now, but that’s the only stage where the decision makers are motivated in both directions. Hospital admins may be talked into “watching someone for a few days” which would count as an admin - especially if we’re talking about patients where money isn’t an issue, but a doc isn’t going to be talked into intubation (I hope).

To me the (modest) increase in recent weeks in ventilator use, at a time when we’ve reduced their use in treatment, is the only stat that can’t be explained via another motivation/statistical artifact.



Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36819 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:45 pm to
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At this pace we’ll beat our previous max hospitalizations in a week or two.





I, too, remember that we were the next Italy
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
56855 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:45 pm to
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What does that picture even mean?


The picture was a reply to this question

To date not one member of JBE’s media harem has asked how positives counted. Q: Contact tracers contact a positive person, (even asymptomatic), & gets list of 20 contacts. Five test negative & 15 refuse testing. ARE YOU REPORTING 15 TEST REFUSALS AS POSITIVE?

Posted by ashy larry
Marcy Projects
Member since Mar 2010
5582 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:46 pm to
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We have changed our treatment of this disease significantly since the spike. Before hand we rushed to get everyone on a vent to help stave off this thing. Now we do everything we can to NOT put someone on a vent.

I think you are making the argument that vents are a solid indicator of whether the spread is actually rising or falling. Everyone on the OT thinks the deaths and hospitalizations are being inflated. But I don't think I've seen someone claiming the vent numbers are fake yet.

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I think it’s a combo of hospitalizations and deaths


I think it's a combo of all three. Even if we assume that deaths and hospital numbers are inflated, the rise of those numbers still indicates that the increase in cases is due to more than just 'more testing'.
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19015 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:47 pm to
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The picture was a reply to this question

To date not one member of JBE’s media harem has asked how positives counted. Q: Contact tracers contact a positive person, (even asymptomatic), & gets list of 20 contacts. Five test negative & 15 refuse testing. ARE YOU REPORTING 15 TEST REFUSALS AS POSITIVE?


Interesting. I’m in the minority still taking this seriously but that’s a pretty damning find.
This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 12:52 pm
Posted by BrohemAlem11
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
13926 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:48 pm to
Kinda weird that deaths are slowing...we keep being told the spikes in cases would be leading to MORE deaths
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42799 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:50 pm to
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think you are making the argument that vents are a solid indicator of whether the spread is actually rising or falling. Everyone on the OT thinks the deaths and hospitalizations are being inflated. But I don't think I've seen someone claiming the vent numbers are fake yet.


I was more meaning vents cannot be used to look back and compare to where we were.

As for a good indication of severity, probably as good as any
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
39436 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:50 pm to
You’re one of the more pathetic characters on this site, so it’s no surprise that your sibling is pathetic as well
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19015 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:51 pm to
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Kinda weird that deaths are slowing...we keep being told the spikes in cases would be leading to MORE deaths


To me, it’s more an indicator that community spread did its damage in the elderly population earlier this year. Younger people more capable of handling the virus are taking longer to treat, for one, and not dying at the same rate.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
42799 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:51 pm to
Not directed SOLELY at you, but we are finally having a civil discussion about this topic. Can we not derail it by throwing shite at each other?
Posted by BrohemAlem11
Ratchet City, LA
Member since Oct 2014
13926 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:52 pm to
What's Keishas first language..cause no way it's English
Posted by ashy larry
Marcy Projects
Member since Mar 2010
5582 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:52 pm to
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I still don't understand why bars were singled out as needing to be closed but other businesses are OK to remain in Phase 2.



I'm not saying I agree with the decision but my guess is it's based on a few things....

1) The bars I've seen aren't complying with occupancy rules at all. Sucks for those that may be complying, but no one was really policing them.

2) you can't really drink in a bar with a mask on, but I can shop for groceries, clothes, tools, etc with a mask. If I'm at a restaurant, I can take my mask off to eat but I'm only in the proximity of the people I arrived with and maybe the server.

3) people in bars get in close proximity to each other, without a mask, then yell over the music to each other spitting out respiratory droplets in each other's face.

I understand people want to bitch about regulations and masks, but bars seem like they would be the most likely place to actually spread something over just about any other business I can think of.
This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 12:57 pm
Posted by AmosMosesAndTwins
Lake Charles
Member since Apr 2010
19015 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:52 pm to
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Can we not derail it by throwing shite at each other?


This is hilarious coming from you haha
Posted by Hobnailboot
Minneapolis
Member since Sep 2012
6094 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:53 pm to
Wish they'd give more detail on the hospitalizations. Age, condition, outcome etc
Posted by Glock17
Member since Oct 2007
23191 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:53 pm to
Looks like regions 4 and 7 are the largest hospitalizations... is that Lafayette and LC area?

Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
61835 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:54 pm to
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3) people in bars get in close proximity to each other, without a mask, then yell over the music to each other spitting out respiratory droplets in each other's face.
A good reason for bars to turn down the volume that’s not on the dance floor. I hate yelling over the music.
This post was edited on 7/13/20 at 12:55 pm
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
56855 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:55 pm to
Posted by Bullfrog
Running Through the Wet Grass
Member since Jul 2010
61835 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:56 pm to
Their number scheme makes not a lot of sense.
Posted by Barrister
Member since Jul 2012
5353 posts
Posted on 7/13/20 at 12:56 pm to
Again, I want to thank you for doing this chart each day and providing everyone a snap-shot by which to compare and contrast these numbers.

When all this is over, this site needs to throw a few buck together and send you and a guest out for a nice meal and bottle of wine. I'll be the first one to donate
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