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re: Longest range EV will end up being a full sized pickup truck: 450 miles

Posted on 5/19/23 at 2:06 pm to
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18017 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 2:06 pm to
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They'll just bully the manufacturers into doing it.

They're not going to stop making ICE trucks for a very long time. They might have to make less of them to hit fleet emissions standards, but they won't stop. They'll just become more of a niche market for people who need them rather than every baw immediately needing a F250 4x4 to mall crawl. Those will still be available, but lower production numbers.
Posted by BorrisMart
La
Member since Jul 2020
9026 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 2:55 pm to
Hydrogen is the future for ICE's.
Posted by billjamin
Houston
Member since Jun 2019
18017 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 2:57 pm to
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Hydrogen is the future for ICE's.

Something we have zero infrastructure for seems like an odd choice.
Posted by Cosmo
glassman's guest house
Member since Oct 2003
131527 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 3:17 pm to
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which is estimated to add upwards of 100 miles of range in just 10 minutes.


So 20-30 minutes for half charge
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
22925 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 3:19 pm to
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The EPA test certified it for 450 mile range.


Dont know if they corrected it but last year there was a story out that EPA Milage on EVs were overblown by more than 50% to help them sell.
Posted by Odysseus32
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/19/23 at 3:28 pm to
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This post was edited on 9/11/25 at 6:28 am
Posted by bayoudude
Member since Dec 2007
25907 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 3:30 pm to
Payload probably isn’t enough to haul a couple 250 lb men and a cooler of beer with the weight of the battery necessary to sniff that kind of range
Posted by MardiGrasCajun
Dirty Coast, MS
Member since Sep 2005
6020 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 3:56 pm to
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And only takes <5 minutes to fill a gas tank.



You driving 450+ miles often? You probably need a short break at some point. Otherwise, this vehicle is fully charged when it rolls out of the garage. No time at the gas station.
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
Member since Sep 2016
32785 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 4:09 pm to
No do the range estimate pulling 500lb jon boat.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23718 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 4:11 pm to
AND.... the colder the temp, the more drastic it reduces battery strength.
Posted by fallguy_1978
Best States #50
Member since Feb 2018
53519 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 4:12 pm to
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You driving 450+ miles often?

I drive 400 miles one way around 6-8 times per year on average. And EVs don't get their optimal range at highway speeds.

I read a real world test by Motor Trend of the Ford Lightning. Range was supposed to be 320 but it got more like 250 and took an hour to charge back to 80%. That's a 100k truck too essentially.
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 4:22 pm to
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You driving 450+ miles often? You probably need a short break at some point. Otherwise, this vehicle is fully charged when it rolls out of the garage. No time at the gas station.



What do you people not get about it? I want the OPTION to drive wherever and whenever the frick I want. I don't want to have to plan my days and weeks based on charging times. I travel along the Gulf Coast a ton pulling my boat. I have a trailer for 4-wheelers and hunting camp shite. I train from Central Texas to the Atlantic Ocean. I want to continue to do these things ON MY TIME. Not the fricking Mickey Mouse government's.

Let car manufactures make their EVs and let the free market decide. Let's see who wins.
Posted by RTRinTampa
Central FL
Member since Jan 2013
5532 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 4:25 pm to
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My favorite lake is 96.8 miles from driveway to boat ramp, I've watched multiple videos on the F-150 Lightning electric and the tow range is abysmal.


Ford has already issued a TSB that basically says don't tow with a Lightning. If people had any impulse control, these EVs, especially the trucks would go away overnight.
This post was edited on 5/19/23 at 5:55 pm
Posted by BigNastyTiger417
Member since Nov 2021
5622 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 4:34 pm to
25 downvotes for your post = 25 dumbass people.
Posted by joshnorris14
Florida
Member since Jan 2009
46974 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 4:38 pm to
Fyi, the 4-motor Cybertruck is slated to have 500 miles of range.
Posted by Korkstand
Member since Nov 2003
29105 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 5:01 pm to
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Ford has already issued a TSB that basically says don't tow with a Lightning. If people had any impulse control, these EVs, especially they trucks would go away overnight.
Ford stupidly used a 400 volt platform. I don't know about this chevy but I'm pretty sure cybertruck and hopefully others in the future go with 800 volts which should fare much better as far as towing and also charge speed.
Posted by SM1010
Member since Oct 2020
1429 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 5:02 pm to
The high end Lucid Air gets an epa tested 515 so I'm not sure where this claim is coming from.
Posted by St Augustine
The Pauper of the Surf
Member since Mar 2006
72117 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 5:19 pm to
Why can't they just make them look like a regular fricking car/truck. Why do they always need fricking robot headlights and other bullshite.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
23982 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 6:19 pm to
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My boat never leaved the boat lift so no towing.

I sound ignorant. Leaved is leaves. No, no Sam Rayburn. Lots of lakes in East Texas.
Posted by CatsGoneWild
Pigeon forge, Tennessee
Member since Jan 2008
15092 posts
Posted on 5/19/23 at 6:29 pm to
Some of you guys would complain about anything. 450 is good. If you lose 100 miles because of a rare towing, so be it. 450 is MUCH better than the lightning and most EV cars. I don't want am electric vehicle, but props to GM for getting good results out of a truck
This post was edited on 5/19/23 at 7:18 pm
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