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Local lawyer fights police and loses - who knows this guy?

Posted on 6/18/21 at 5:10 am
Posted by jbgleason
Bailed out of BTR to God's Country
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 6/18/21 at 5:10 am
Quoting a lot of the text since the article is behind the Advocate pay wall.

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A local attorney sued the Baton Rouge Police Department earlier this week claiming officers used excessive force during a welfare check, which escalated after a profane outburst from the lawyer and ended with him handcuffed to a hospital bed receiving treatment for broken ribs and a punctured lung.

Baton Rouge attorney Jeffry Sanford was booked into jail last August after his release from the hospital. He was later charged with felony resisting a police officer with force or violence.

He claims Cpl. Joshua Kirst and Officer Herbert Allen violated his constitutional rights. A BRPD spokesman said the department conducted an internal investigation soon after the incident and cleared both officers of wrongdoing. Officials declined to comment on specific allegations from Sanford, whose complaint presents his perspective on what happened the night of Aug. 23. His ex-wife asked police check on their son, who was 12 at the time and staying with his dad, because she was unable to reach them by phone, according to the lawsuit.

The officers knocked on the door and told Sanford why they were there. "Upon hearing that his ex-wife called the police, Mr. Sanford did the sign of the cross," the complaint reads. He said her concern "was wholly unfounded and without factual basis" and he "became upset that the police, unannounced, had interrupted his evening with a non-criminal matter without either prior notice or a warrant." So, according to the lawsuit, he "very calmly" gave the officers a message for his ex-wife: "Tell her to suck 10 million d****."

Kirst responded by saying he understood the sentiment, according to the complaint. But when the officer tried to keep asking questions, Sanford said, "f*** you" and started to close the door. His profane speech was protected under the First Amendment, his attorneys argue in the complaint. Kirst then became "visibly angry" and told Sanford not to talk to him like that, the complaint says. The two officers barged into the house "without permission, a warrant, or probable cause of a crime being committed," according to Sanford. Once inside, a physical confrontation ensued. The lawsuit accuses Kirst of "violently striking Mr. Sanford" while Allen used a stun gun on him.


Tell her to suck 10 million dicks.

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This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 5:11 am
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 5:16 am to
WBRZ from 2015, he was "arrested"
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 5:17 am
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
32793 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 5:17 am to
Apparently this type of outburst is very much in
character for Mr. Sanford Attorney arrested after courtroom outburst



Eta: tduecen beat me to it
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 5:20 am
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
49288 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 5:22 am to
Going by the facts presented in the OP I have to side with the lawyer.

A "wellness check" doesn't give them the authority to do shite.
Posted by Beessnax
Member since Nov 2015
9147 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 6:07 am to
Somebody should slap that stupid looking smile off of his face
Posted by munchman
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
10322 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 6:14 am to
Let him suck cake
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57316 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 6:28 am to
quote:

he "very calmly" gave the officers a message for his ex-wife: "Tell her to suck 10 million d****."

Kirst responded by saying he understood the sentiment




Kirst in trouble now
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 6:29 am
Posted by baldona
Florida
Member since Feb 2016
20452 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 6:32 am to
Gotta be Booziebadass
Posted by BeerMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2012
8375 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 6:32 am to
Can’t say from where but he looks familiar. Probably saw him loud capping some cashier or some shite.
Posted by Dam Guide
Member since Sep 2005
15511 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 6:52 am to
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Sanford said, "f*** you" and started to close the door. His profane speech was protected under the First Amendment, his attorneys argue in the complaint. Kirst then became "visibly angry" and told Sanford not to talk to him like that, the complaint says. The two officers barged into the house "without permission, a warrant, or probable cause of a crime being committed," according to Sanford. Once inside, a physical confrontation ensued.


If true, kiss a few million good bye from BR. Cops are dumb.
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 6:53 am
Posted by eitek1
Member since Jun 2011
2133 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 6:54 am to
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A "wellness check" doesn't give them the authority to do shite.


He will absolutely win and may get the jobs of those cops. This is what 42 U.S. Code §?1983 was written for. Not only that, the cops themselves are personally liable because they violated his 4th amendment rights.

There is a Louisiana case, White vs. Morris that states;
quote:

"The right of personal liberty is one of the fundamental rights guaranteed to every citizen, and any unlawful interference with it may be resisted. Every person has a right to resist an unlawful arrest; and, in preventing such illegal restraint of his liberty, he may use such force as may be necessary."


Our lawyer friend is totally justified and has case law on his side. Those two cops are screwed.
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36552 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:09 am to
quote:

he "very calmly" gave the officers a message for his ex-wife: "Tell her to suck 10 million d****."

Kirst responded by saying he understood the sentiment


This is the kind of stuff livePD should have been made for.
This post was edited on 6/18/21 at 7:38 am
Posted by theenemy
Member since Oct 2006
13078 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:16 am to
quote:

He will absolutely win and may get the jobs of those cops. This is what 42 U.S. Code §?1983 was written for. Not only that, the cops themselves are personally liable because they violated his 4th amendment rights.

There is a Louisiana case, White vs. Morris that states;
quote:
"The right of personal liberty is one of the fundamental rights guaranteed to every citizen, and any unlawful interference with it may be resisted. Every person has a right to resist an unlawful arrest; and, in preventing such illegal restraint of his liberty, he may use such force as may be necessary."


Our lawyer friend is totally justified and has case law on his side. Those two cops are screwed.


I dunno.

quote:

In their probable cause report documenting the arrest, however, the officers described Sanford as "physically abusive." He immediately started using vulgar speech — including calling his ex-wife a b**** and telling police to beat her brains out — and clenched his fists once police made contact, the report states.


quote:

He later punched an officer in the face, according to police. Because of his violent attitude and body language, officers believed his son could be in danger, the report says.


Plus he has a history of Domestic Abuse.

Can the officer's enter the home if they believe the child's safety is at risk?

I don't think it is as clear cut as you claim. It will be interesting how it plays out.
Posted by Loup
Ferriday
Member since Apr 2019
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Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:16 am to
here come the bootlickers
Posted by AllemanWC
Bayou Corne
Member since Jan 2015
946 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:19 am to
Susan has called the cops MANY times on this crazy bastard. He is an absolute a-hole. He has pulled guns on her multiple times. He needs to spend some quality time in prison and get a lesson in respect. He is the lowest of the low.
Posted by Jack Bauers HnK
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5713 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:19 am to
Got three so far ready to condemn the cops based on nothing but the carefully written words of a lawyer in a lawsuit
Posted by Tigeralum2008
Yankees Fan
Member since Apr 2012
17138 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:20 am to
quote:

There is a Louisiana case, White vs. Morris that states;
quote:
"The right of personal liberty is one of the fundamental rights guaranteed to every citizen, and any unlawful interference with it may be resisted. Every person has a right to resist an unlawful arrest; and, in preventing such illegal restraint of his liberty, he may use such force as may be necessary."


Our lawyer friend is totally justified and has case law on his side. Those two cops are screwed.



You’re assuming it was illegal. Cops will argue they were performing a “wellness check” and discovered a situation where they became concerned for the child.

My ex wife pulled this BS on me one time when my kid got mad at her and stopped responding to her multiple calls/texts. It’s insane a crazy mom can call the cops and intrude on your time without consequences. The cops told me they knew she’s crazy but they cannot leave until they verify the physical safety of the child. It’s infuriating but I brought my son to them at the door. Took 5mins. My kid was like WTF
Posted by Vote4MikeAck504
Go Cocks!
Member since Mar 2019
3098 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:28 am to
They did that to an attorney, at his house, without a warrant? Dude is about to be paid.
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
32793 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:28 am to
quote:

He will absolutely win and may get the jobs of those cops.


Sure, if we take the allegations in the complaint as completely true.
Posted by Vote4MikeAck504
Go Cocks!
Member since Mar 2019
3098 posts
Posted on 6/18/21 at 7:29 am to
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Somebody should slap that stupid looking smile off of his face


"Wipe that face of your head, bitch." If you know where this quote is from...
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