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re: Letting kids walk to/from school. Is the world really that much more unsafe?
Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:06 am to sidewalkside
Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:06 am to sidewalkside
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Is the world really that much more unsafe?
I reckon the data will show that it's much safer now than when GenX or Millennials went to school
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Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:08 am to UASports23
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There is a reason why big cities don't report their crime statistics.
This doesn't happen. You've built your premise on a lie.
Many big cities are about to set records this year with murder rates. I mean real shitholes like Baltimore.
Nationally we may set the record for lowest recorded murder rate in history this year.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:10 am to sidewalkside
quote:another boomer L
Letting kids walk to/from school. Is the world really that much more unsafe?
They were the first generation of parents to fall for “the world is so dangerous now” propaganda
ETA they also were the first to abandon any sense of community or neighborly behavior
This post was edited on 7/25/25 at 8:12 am
Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:10 am to sidewalkside
In Kindergarten or maybe pre-K and, for reasons far beyond my memory, I rode my tricycle to school. Dad was in Vietnam and I have no clue as to how this would have happened (e.g. was I supposed to walk and popped on the tricycle or was Mom "if he insists on riding that tricycle to school, I'll let him find out why that was a terrible idea."
For some reason, it was an incident that was never freely discussed in family conversations.
For some reason, it was an incident that was never freely discussed in family conversations.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:13 am to Epic Cajun
This. The 70s were a lot more unsafe for kids than just about any time in the last 100 years. Starting about 30 years ago crime in most places started to come down precipitously in terms of murders and assaults and even child kidnapping/ abductions , etc.
I still wouldn't want my kids roaming wild in urban areas like NO like when I was a kid, but that is due more to the fact that the overall physical environment is different, i.e. traffic and things like that.
You'll never completely eradicate bad actors. But there prevalence today is much less than say 40 -50 years ago
I still wouldn't want my kids roaming wild in urban areas like NO like when I was a kid, but that is due more to the fact that the overall physical environment is different, i.e. traffic and things like that.
You'll never completely eradicate bad actors. But there prevalence today is much less than say 40 -50 years ago
Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:13 am to sidewalkside
The world isnt as safe as it was in the 50's but it's safer than it was in the 80's.
Stranger abduction is a pretty rare thing. A kid is more likely to die crossing traffic or falling off a bike.
Stranger abduction is a pretty rare thing. A kid is more likely to die crossing traffic or falling off a bike.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:14 am to The Third Leg
quote:Did it feel like there was SOME "honor amongst thieves" where they just didn't mess with kids and stuff then?
You have absolutely no clue how shitty the cities of the United States were in 70s and 80s when violent crime peaked.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:14 am to sidewalkside
It depends on the location of the school, distance from the house, and overall safety of the neighborhood
Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:15 am to sidewalkside
I think with the surveillance state, we see and hear a LOT more than we did back in the day. Everyone knew that the creepy photographer that lived down the street was probably a weirdo. Now we know he is on the sex crime reporting list and where he lives along with a video where he tried to hook up with a dude catfishing him as an 11yr old boy on Youtube.
So I think there is big difference between suspecting and staying away and KNOWING. But we also grew up on our own and so if we made it to 8, then you knew how to avoid danger.
Schools were also mostly built in neighborhoods where kids could live around them and had an easy walk. Look at where they're built now with most of them having industry or huge busy roads all around them. A lot of them don't even have a sidewalk or walking area to them. And last but not least societal pressure means that it doesn't take a lot for some Karen to call Child protective services on you for leaving your kid out too long.
So I think there is big difference between suspecting and staying away and KNOWING. But we also grew up on our own and so if we made it to 8, then you knew how to avoid danger.
Schools were also mostly built in neighborhoods where kids could live around them and had an easy walk. Look at where they're built now with most of them having industry or huge busy roads all around them. A lot of them don't even have a sidewalk or walking area to them. And last but not least societal pressure means that it doesn't take a lot for some Karen to call Child protective services on you for leaving your kid out too long.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:17 am to sidewalkside
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Did it feel like there was SOME "honor amongst thieves" where they just didn't mess with kids and stuff then?
What? No.
Go look on page 1 for a vestige of this time: the missing children on milk cartons
NYC was a shite hole flooded with runaways like these 2. It's nothing like that today.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:17 am to Philzilla2k
BAN MILK CARTONS
Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:18 am to GreatLakesTiger24
quote:Was it really their fault or was that more of a side effect of AC proliferating in homes and people no longer hung out outside and engaged less with their neighbors?
ETA they also were the first to abandon any sense of community or neighborly behavior
Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:18 am to sidewalkside
Our phones are pumping panic out 24/7. The world is safer. Our exposure to the unsafe is much higher.
There's much more news and it gets to us much quicker these days.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:19 am to Odysseus32
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Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:19 am to Philzilla2k
^ This was me at one time. Not that specific picture of course.
So @ OP, it's incumbent on you as a parent to protect your kids however you can. All it takes is one creeper to snatch your beautiful kid(s) and be gone without a trace.
Is your convenience worth a lifetime of heartache?
Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:21 am to sidewalkside
When I was 4 & 5, I walked 100 yards from private Pre-K/K to my house.
On the other hand, I knew every family in each house I passed by, so it might as well have been Mayberry.
On the other hand, I knew every family in each house I passed by, so it might as well have been Mayberry.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:24 am to OU812ME2
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And last but not least societal pressure means that it doesn't take a lot for some Karen to call Child protective services on you for leaving your kid out too long.
Nailed it. Was just about to post the same thing.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:27 am to sidewalkside
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Did it feel like there was SOME "honor amongst thieves" where they just didn't mess with kids and stuff then?
This is true but limited to neighborhoods where you have a stable population.
I lived in a working class hood and never saw cops. People lived in the same neighborhood for decades (stability) and if a man picked on a child or a woman, there was a family member who would kick his arse.
Its not the cops you feared, it was a father or a brother...
Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:29 am to AUstar
quote:and a kid is infinitely more likely to be diddled or kidnapped by a family member, mom’s boyfriend, etc than a stranger
Stranger abduction is a pretty rare thing. A kid is more likely to die crossing traffic or falling off a bike.
Posted on 7/25/25 at 8:30 am to idlewatcher
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This was me at one time. Not that specific picture of course.
You were a missing child on a milk carton?
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