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re: Let's not forget Noveske's last post before he died.

Posted on 5/28/22 at 5:52 pm to
Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 5/28/22 at 5:52 pm to


In the Columbine case, one kid stop taking his meds. Going cold turkey is supposed to be a no-no and can lead to some serious psychological side effects.

Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
1844 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 6:27 pm to
When should a kid get forced on medicine only to stop "cold turkey"? There lies the problem.

Kids aren't made to fit in a box, so don't drug them then not drug them to try to bounce that ball in that box.
Posted by BigWillyMetry
Member since Dec 2021
1548 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 8:51 pm to
#1 Issue most of these people have that you left out, they don’t get pu$$y

Know plenty of people who have taken Paxil, it has some side effects but haven’t heard of hallucinations, must be very rare.

Posted by Alltheway Tigers!
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2004
7138 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 9:35 pm to
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When should a kid get forced on medicine only to stop "cold turkey"? There lies the problem. Kids aren't made to fit in a box, so don't drug them then not drug them to try to bounce that ball in that box.


Have to find the source but the boy in question would not take meds or spit out the pills.

Regardless, a person’s body chemistry is changing so fast at that age, I would imagine a doctor would have to heavily monitor.
Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:08 pm to
Double post
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 12:03 am
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:30 pm to




This post was edited on 5/28/22 at 10:40 pm
Posted by chinese58
NELA. after 30 years in Dallas.
Member since Jun 2004
30401 posts
Posted on 5/28/22 at 10:34 pm to
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Would you mind posting the link?
I Googled John Noveske and found this article.
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Read John Noveske’s last Facebook post.

John Noveske was a prominent custom gun manufacturer who died in 2013 one of his last posts before he died highlighted the links between school shootings and pharmaceuticals. This has of course prompted a number of conspiracy theories from both left and right sources.

Controversial Information surrounding his death:...


trebuchet-magazine.com

As soon as I clicked on it, I thought, "Now I'm on some list of mega-right wing kooks. The government is going to discredit me in some way, to make me look incapable of functioning in their world. By making me look mentally disturbed, they will be justified in taking all of my firearms, my knife collection, and my Toyota Tacoma collection."

The first link in the article took me to a definite right wing kook site.

TexasGOPVote
This post was edited on 5/28/22 at 10:44 pm
Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 5/29/22 at 12:07 am to
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Would you mind posting the link?

If you want to fact check, then research every shooting posted. I fact checked random ones and it's "crazy" how he did his homework.

Google "Noveske last post" if you want to get on the list.
Posted by noonan
Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Aug 2005
36903 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 12:16 am to
When did these drugs start getting prescribed, in general and to kids and such?

Wasn't there a thread on here saying there were basically zero school shootings before the 80's or something?

Pretty sure people had these same mental problems going back basically forever, but not the drugs.
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13657 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 12:17 am to
So if millions of law abiding citizens get benefits from these drugs, we should outlaw the drugs because of a few bad apples? You are making the same argument that the gun control people are, except for drugs and not guns.
Posted by Buck_Rogers
Member since Jul 2013
1844 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 12:25 am to
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When did these drugs start getting prescribed

When did guns start getting sold?
School massacres always happened through time by some psycho now and then. They've had Indian scalpings of young children and full blown school bombings from psycho paths.
Those massacres were rare. Now they're common. What changed?
Over prescribed drugs and social media.
This post was edited on 5/29/22 at 12:31 am
Posted by MSUDawg98
Ravens Flock
Member since Jan 2018
10024 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 12:32 am to
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People who kill a bunch of people are crazy and have been treated at some point for being crazy. Shocking revelation right there.
I've been saying it since the background of these evil bastard was released. Instead of going after the guns or even touching background checks they need to link all of them to one big thing that would have prevented several of these shootings. When it comes to kids, guns, and mental health there needs to be a change with NICS. Instead of hiding 13+ old juveniles' records, it should be mandatory that law enforcement and mental health professionals put disqualifying information into the system. THAT was where the system broke down before the shooting started. The argument that juvenile records should be sealed is mute since the dealer either gets an authorization number, denial, or hold. No medical information is disclosed. And the local authorities can be alerted to the attempt of the attempt by a PP.

The "background check" taking time is such bullshite. I can walk into a shop, provide them with my license while filling out and signing a form under threat of perjury, and the dealer then calls into the feds to give them the information. The time between me handing him the form and NICS coming back with an authorization number takes less than 5 minutes. (Frankly with technology these days I don't see why there's a fight over NICS checks at gun shows.)
Posted by mikelbr
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2008
47506 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 1:33 am to
This is a good start but Ritalin/Adderall ain't the culprit.

The other shite may very well be.
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30303 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 7:04 am to
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The argument that juvenile records should be sealed is mute since the dealer either gets an authorization number, denial, or hold.


The word you are looking for is moot, not mute. No trying to derail your argument, it is a valid one, this is just one of my pet peeves.
Posted by glorymanutdtiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2012
3792 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 8:55 am to
There is an underlying theme that the government ignores before they make it all Political.

Mental health is one of the primary reason for all these. They shown signs of what they will do.
Posted by windriverwonders
Member since Jan 2022
37 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 9:50 am to
WOW you did a lot of great research there. Care to share the source/s?
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
15226 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 10:00 am to
I'm on a couple of those. You better watch your step.

Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
17912 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 10:06 am to
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Wasn't there a thread on here saying there were basically zero school shootings before the 80's or something?


The first school shooting in America was in the 60s... the 1760s.
Posted by cable
Member since Oct 2018
9646 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 10:12 am to
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Toyota Tacoma collection


Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68620 posts
Posted on 5/29/22 at 10:22 am to
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you have a chicken and egg problem here



No we have a , let’s just pop a pill and it will solve your problems problem.

I’ve seen people in psychotic rage that abuse amphetamines. Plent if kids move from one brand to another due to suicidal thoughts.

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