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Let’s have a WWI discussion. Which country is most at fault for it?

Posted on 4/4/19 at 2:51 pm
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 2:51 pm
Germany is usually everybody’s #1 country to place the blame.

What about Austria-Hungary?
Russia?
Serbia?
France?
Britain?

Discuss

Eta: I think there is blame enough to go around but I don’t think Russia and Britain get enough blame a lot of the time.
This post was edited on 4/4/19 at 2:58 pm
Posted by Eli Goldfinger
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 2:53 pm to
Whatever country Trump’s ancestors were living in...that country is to blame.
Posted by beerJeep
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 2:53 pm to
If Britain would have stayed out, a lot of innocent men wouldn’t have died for nothing
Posted by Ancient Astronaut
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 2:54 pm to
Where’s Bosnia-Herzegovina ????
Posted by Placebeaux
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 2:55 pm to
The Banks that financed both sides
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 2:57 pm to
i blame the french
Posted by Jamohn
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 2:58 pm to
quote:

Germany is usually everybody’s #1 country to place the blame.

Because it is the #1 country to blame. The Kaiser felt looked down upon by his cousins in the English and Russian royal families, Germany was an upstart empire that saw an opening in Europe to rack up points and shot their shot. The fact that the Schlieffen Plan existed long before is proof. And then they chose to be the country to violate Belgium's sovereignty.
Posted by The Spleen
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 2:59 pm to
I don't think you can blame just one country. It was just a perfect storm of awful from a few different areas that fueled it.
Posted by DownshiftAndFloorIt
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 2:59 pm to
Serbia and Austria Hungary for lighting the fuse

Germany and Russia for the amount of dead. They shouldnt have invaded Belgium and shouldnt have went after France. Germany having little dick syndrome and moving west is the problem. Russia shouldnt have rushed to help Serbia. The world should have let Austria Hungary and Serbia Duke it out.
This post was edited on 4/4/19 at 3:01 pm
Posted by crazy4lsu
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 2:59 pm to
I'd argue it was ethnonationalism and the alliance system that was to blame.
Posted by 14&Counting
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 2:59 pm to
Germany - The Kaiser was itching for a fight
Posted by madmaxvol
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 3:00 pm to
quote:

i blame the french


Treaty of Versailles plays heavily into it all.


ETA (not changing the original post above)...old guy reads post title as "WWII"...jumps into post without really reading other posts...posts something stupid...
This post was edited on 4/4/19 at 3:13 pm
Posted by 14&Counting
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 3:01 pm to
quote:

Treaty of Versailles plays heavily into it all.




Treaty of Versailles ended the war dummy
This post was edited on 4/4/19 at 3:02 pm
Posted by jdutto3
Atlanta
Member since Dec 2006
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 3:03 pm to
If World War One was a bar fight

I've always enjoyed that story.

But seriously, Germany and Austria were itching for a fight. The upstarts wanted to become major world (colonial) powers like their neighbors.

Dan Carlin's hardcore history podcast on WWI goes into it in pretty good detail.

Also, the assassination of Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria is kind of a hilarious story. Earlier that day, they someone else tried and failed to assassinate him. If at first you don't succeed...
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 3:05 pm to
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 3:05 pm to
quote:

Germany - The Kaiser was itching for a fight


France and Russia both were too.
Posted by fr33manator
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 3:06 pm to
Belgium. If they had just let Germany through then Britain wouldn’t have declared war and Germany would have knocked France out before Russia could mobilize, and the whole war might have taken a few months with minimal carnage and destruction and simply resulted in some territory changing hands
Posted by tickfawtiger
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 3:06 pm to
And was the primary cause of all the strife/discord which fueled WW2
Posted by TejasHorn
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11587 posts
Posted on 4/4/19 at 3:07 pm to
You can come up with incidents or policies here and there to debate otherwise in who started the WWs. But in the end it always comes back to the Huns.

They started ‘em. Uncle Sam finished ‘em.
This post was edited on 4/4/19 at 3:10 pm
Posted by Cump11b
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Posted on 4/4/19 at 3:09 pm to
this is hilarious
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