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re: Lee Circle bead lady getting death threats

Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:36 am to
Posted by Breesus
Unplug
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Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:36 am to
quote:

the very people that wanted the monuments to come down, because of the violence the men represented in their minds, they are the ones who are upset and suggesting violence.”


Progressive Hypocrisy knows no bounds.
Posted by Bullseye
Madisonville
Member since Oct 2017
241 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 7:48 am to
Let's face it.... you're an idiot!!!!
Posted by 24nights
North of I10
Member since Apr 2012
5351 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:20 am to
you need a snickers
Posted by tigerbutt
Deep South
Member since Jun 2006
26450 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:21 am to
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Let's be honest...Ms. Forever Lee Circle hates black people. Or at the very least, likes to troll black people.


Please quit displaying your ignorance.
Posted by pensacola
pensacola
Member since Sep 2005
4832 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:22 am to
She is referred to as “the Lee Circle Jerk.”
Posted by LSU2NO
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
1949 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 8:32 am to
So what were Lee's actions that were so reprehensible? Could you provide a link? I would like to see that. Thank you.
Posted by pensacola
pensacola
Member since Sep 2005
4832 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:04 am to
He gave discretion to Longstreet. That’s pretty reprehensible.
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
22029 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:12 am to
She merely tells it like it is!
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
22029 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:14 am to
You sound.......uh....black?
Posted by GREENHEAD22
Member since Nov 2009
21041 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:22 am to
So where can these beads be bought?
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
16369 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:24 am to
Congrats on the literacy.

Any details on his actions that have you so upset? I know he advised people to avoid the freedmen (but him being a white supremacist doesn't make different from about 99.99% of the white population at the time and on whole, at least from the evidence I've seen, he was well within the moderate camp on that one). He was pretty pissed about soldiers stealing his wife's personal effects from Arlington House and wrote some angry letters about it. Though I believe that when mess with the bull you get the horns, I can still understand him being upset.

There are rumors that he cheated on his wife before the war, but nothing substantiated (though some surmise that it's why the family won't release his papers). His daughters tickling his feet was weird.

On the whole, though, he was a powerful voice for peaceful reconciliation.
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75973 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:27 am to
Posted by Ice Cold
Over Macho Grande
Member since Jun 2004
18953 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:34 am to
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What did Lee do? serious question

Chernow writes that Grant honored his agreement with Lee (regarding amnesty) at Appomattox by intervening with Johnson to derail the Virginia grand jury that indicted him and other generals for treason. Grant knew that would be a disaster for reunification.

Grant also knew Lee was the only man with the moral authority to lead the south away from resentment and recrimination. Instead of doing that, Lee reverted to a "states rights" defense of succession. He publicly opposed voting rights for blacks. He personally traded in revisionist history. He put his name on this:
quote:

The idea that the Southern people are hostile to the negroes, and would oppress them if it were in their power to do so, is entirely unfounded.
Psst...Bob...you literally fought a war over the "states' rights" to own human beings. And this:
quote:

They have grown up in our midst, and we have been accustomed from childhood to look upon them with kindness. The change in the relations of the two races has brought no change in our feeling towards them.
Read: they are intellectually and morally inferior (you enslaved them and deprived them of education), incapable of self-reliance (you enslaved them), and need their beneficient white superiors to guide them (guess what ... you enslaved them). And this:
quote:

Above all, they would appeal to their countrymen for the re-establishment in the Southern States of that which has justly been the right of every American -- the right of self-government
Read: let us determine for ourselves how to treat the Negro.

LINK

Lots of people are under the impression that slavery in the south ended in 1865. Never mind the black codes (later Jim Crow), the forced sharecropping, the denial of voting rights, and the continued state-sanctioned suppression of blacks more than a century after the war ended.

And to think some think blacks should "get over it."
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 9:36 am
Posted by Ice Cold
Over Macho Grande
Member since Jun 2004
18953 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:34 am to
quote:

On the whole, though, he was a powerful voice for peaceful reconciliation.

No, he wasn't.
Posted by Ice Cold
Over Macho Grande
Member since Jun 2004
18953 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:36 am to
quote:

You sound.......uh....black?
Italian (Sicilian), French/Acadian, and German. Why do you care and what does it matter?
Posted by Klark Kent
Houston via BR
Member since Jan 2008
75973 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:39 am to
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And to think some think blacks should "get over it."


so what's your solution?

Should I give up my property and rights as a United States citizen because of something my great, great, great, great, grandfather may have taken part in? Or should I pay a tax to the this generations AA's who's great great great great great grandfathers had these injustices forced upon them?

none of these are happening, so yeah....get over it.
This post was edited on 2/8/18 at 9:41 am
Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
41915 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 9:45 am to
quote:

'I'm upset about this, I'm sad about it.' I'm not ashamed to say that I'm upset that monument is no longer there.


Lol dumb broad so triggered she made beads
Posted by HarryBalzack
Member since Oct 2012
16369 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 10:45 am to
Have you read David Blight's Race and Reunion?

The old saying goes that the North and South buried the hatchet in the black man's back, which is true.

Check out Robert Penn Warren's (LSU man, btw) Legacy of the Civil War.

Warren does a great job of assaying the legacy of the war and the gnashing, shirt ripping on both sides. The knee-jerk reaction that the white South was completely evil and treasonous and that the white North was morally righteous fits into ideologically simplistic narratives that were generated as a result of the war and used conveniently afterward to justify near about whatever they liked (and which do little to fully understand the conflict or its aftermath). Neither was accurate, however. Grant, Sherman, Sheridan, and many other "great emancipators" turned to slaughtering Indians after the war, which seems about on par with whatever the South did.

Lee's comments about African Americans are repugnant by today's standards, but, again, they were far from extreme during the period. Lincoln himself made very similar comments during his debates with Douglas.

None of which is offered as an excuse or justification for the white South, but to say that anyone trumpeting the North's leaders, or claiming what white southern attitudes about racial superiority were an anathema to the national mindset, during the period can crawl on down off their self-righteous horse.
Posted by mofungoo
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2012
4583 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 11:17 am to
quote:

And to think some think blacks should "get over it."

I think they should get under it.

MAGA
Posted by dbbuilder79
Overton NV
Member since Dec 2010
4660 posts
Posted on 2/8/18 at 11:26 am to
Wow....


You really stretch the meaning of interpretation, don't you
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