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re: Learjet med-transport plane has crashed into a mall and houses in Philadelphia

Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:22 pm to
Posted by Tiger Stadium 11
Charleston, SC
Member since Oct 2009
5492 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:22 pm to
I’ll give ya that on climb out, but usually when we get bigger into those cold temps we blown all the water off the flight surfaces or and moisture we are fling through is ice crystals not actually water anymore to worry about…

You’re expecting what’s normal and yes how it usually is. What if tonight there was a large temp drop right off the ground with a frontal system moving through. I haven’t looked that much into it to know either way… put ice on a tail can cause that dive and that’s what the guy asked how a plane could end up in a dive like that

We both agree mechanical something seems most likely
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 8:26 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38338 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:23 pm to
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And why leave Philadelphia to go to Springfield. MO for medical treatment.
Could it also be the case that they are flying to Springfield to pick someone up? I'm assuming that's how ambulances work.
Posted by 0x15E
Outer Space
Member since Sep 2020
14735 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:23 pm to
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Kansas now Philadelphia Hmmmmmm


So much wrong to unpack here
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
177318 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:25 pm to
I'm guessing it'll end up being something related to a bad safety and work culture and cost cutting at the company.
Posted by Reservoir dawg
Member since Oct 2013
15129 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:27 pm to
Plane had Mexican registration

On-board explosion
Spatial disorientation
Loss of elevator control
Control surface separation
Tail separation
Runaway trim











Sabotage
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 8:32 pm
Posted by Tempratt
Member since Oct 2013
15195 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:29 pm to
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That was a hell of an explosion to be a small plane.

That’s what I was thinking.

Why did it appear to be coming apart? It almost looked like reentry breakup.
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
39153 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:29 pm to
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Plane had Mexican registration
Wichita then Mexico hmmmm makes you wonder.


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Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
29741 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:30 pm to
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The last words anyone in Philly wants to hear after a plane crash is contained in this video.
This post was edited on 1/31/25 at 8:32 pm
Posted by Buttermilk Pancakes
Philadelphia
Member since Jul 2013
2455 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:33 pm to
This is literally a little too close to home! I could drive there in 15 mins and shop in that area. That’s scary AF.
Posted by SteelerBravesDawg
Member since Sep 2020
43337 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:34 pm to
Posted by Pedro
Geaux Hawks
Member since Jul 2008
39153 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:37 pm to
Either my joke wasn’t as good as I thought it was or it’s going over peoples heads. Likely the first one. Oh whale.
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75132 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:37 pm to
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Either my joke wasn’t as good as I thought it was or it’s going over peoples heads. Likely the first one. Oh whale.

I liked it.
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6750 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:39 pm to
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That was a hell of an explosion to be a small plane.


Learjet 55 can hold just about 1000 gallons of fuel.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
19295 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:51 pm to
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Fuel starvation.

Yes that’s why there was a massive fireball
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216458 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:51 pm to
And for the long trip it had to be that full… so a guy just called the news and said something about tons of geese fly in that area.. one could have got in an engine.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38338 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:53 pm to
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I used to be really interested in politics growing up but the state of things now has turned me off of it completely. The back and forth and making every little incident be me vs you from both sides is exhausting.
Same. I quit closely following when it began to appear to me that I was just another 'useful idiot', being trained to blame my neighbors for my problems, so I wouldn't notice the people enriching themselves at my expense, and, even worse, would waste time and effort actually defending whichever crooks pushed my buttons better.

Carlin had it right- it's a big club and you ain't in it.
Posted by RedFoxx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Jan 2009
6750 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:54 pm to
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Fuel starvation. Yes that’s why there was a massive fireball


Fuel starvation =/= fuel exhaustion

You can have fuel starvation with full tanks.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
80524 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 8:57 pm to
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And for the long trip it had to be that full… so a guy just called the news and said something about tons of geese fly in that area.. one could have got in an engine.


A plane most likely wouldn't go down like that even if it lost both engines.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216458 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:05 pm to
I didn’t think so..
Posted by BuckyCheese
Member since Jan 2015
57778 posts
Posted on 1/31/25 at 9:06 pm to
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A plane most likely wouldn't go down like that even if it lost both engines.


Losing one on takeoff can be problematic according to a pilot here.
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