re: Leah Remini Scientology Finale

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Atheism is a religion.

As is veganism, socialism, and crossfit.

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Atheists are worse than any religious person I know.

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The purpose is control and money.

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The purpose of ALL religion is money.
If they get you to give them your money thinking you’ll be “saved” they have control of you.
No matter what religion it is.
Period.

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Not necessarily true. Maybe they, too, hope for meaning, but also decry those who have a long track record of profiting from the fact that all humans are insecure about death and the fact that there is no way to know what happens when we meet our end.

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I take your point that not everyone who rejects religion have no hope beyond death...even though if you believe there is anything beyond annihilation then it is a form of religion.. but sure, I will concede to your point on that but by the same token, the allegations you further lay out that religion is basically comprised of leaders who are hucksters trying to take advantage of adherents...that's a bit broad and over-reaching too no???

There is a huge difference in spirituality and organized religion. The latter tells you what you have to believe in order to achieve the goal. The other allows you freedom to choose what you want to believe and doesn't force things down your throat.


The choice is simple for me.

2 pages and not one pic of Ms Remini?

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You just described every religion.

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The purpose of ALL religion is money.
If they get you to give them your money thinking you’ll be “saved” they have control of you.
No matter what religion it is.
Period.

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Dumb statement is retarded.

You may as well say that because I gave money to Wendy's for a burger that Wendy's has control of me.

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2 pages and not one pic of Ms Remini?

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Shameful

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 if you believe there is anything beyond annihilation then it is a form of religion

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If you want to lump a very general hope that there's light at the end of tunnel into the "religion" bucket, that's fine. I don't know that I'd call it that, but it doesn't matter.

I made a vague statement because I don't personally enjoy pissing in other people's Cheerios. I also don't pretend to know more than anyone else. I just find all of the finger waving and name calling counterproductive.

All I am saying is that people who have blind faith (in anything) make perfect marks for con men or hucksters, to take your words.

I'm not saying your religion or anyone else's is wrong. I'm saying that one man's cult is another man's religion, and that there are terrific examples of religious leaders preying (pun intended) on the insecurities of man, in particular the poor for whom life is the hardest and whose thirst for meaning is the greatest.

Just as I disagree with people who like to lump all religious people together, I disagree with devout people who do the same to those who simply give valid criticism. Attacking people is a lot easier than attacking ideas.

Helping the human beings in their orbit, spreading compassion and love, extending kindness and spiritual guidance to those who are struggling, teaching meditation , wisdom, human nature and quiet reflection, presiding over religious practice and funerals, helping the grieving, teaching the principles of ethical living, etc etc.

You shouldn’t be so angry about things you don’t understand. Anger at things you don’t understand is usually just attachment to your ego. Ignorance is suffering. Don’t be the cause of your own suffering.