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Posted by Spaulding Smails
Milano’s Bar
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:47 pm to
If you really want to be a lawyer...Take one of the full rides, study hard, be in the top of your class, pass the bar, work hard

Life will work itself out
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Posted by raw dog
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2011
483 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:48 pm to
There are so many huge law firms in Dallas.. if you can make top 20% at SMU enjoy your 6-figure (base) salary in your first job.
Posted by TH03
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:48 pm to
ask someone else other than the OT. they'll just say don't go
Posted by arseinclarse
Member since Apr 2007
35297 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:48 pm to
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ask someone else other than the OT.


Where was the OT in '02?
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:49 pm to
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ask someone else other than the OT. they'll just say don't go

People act as if this isn't good advice. More lawyers than not, if being completely honest, would probably tell you they wished they did something else.
Posted by Traffic Circle
Down the Rabbit Hole
Member since Nov 2013
4867 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:49 pm to
quote:

There are so many huge law firms in Dallas.. if you can make top 20% at SMU enjoy your 6-figure (base) salary in your first job.


And kiss your life goodbye.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
118229 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:50 pm to
You should have called me.


Posted by BrentED
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2007
2223 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:50 pm to
From what I understand, if you want to live in/around New Orleans then Loyola is fine. Otherwise don't go.

LSU is great if you want to stay in state although you can get jobs out of state it is for the most part regional. It is probably the best bang for your buck although that doesn't matter much to you since you have a full scholarship offer.

I don't know much about SMU, but how much of the bill does that leave you footing? If it is a great deal then I would revert back to The Ocean's advice and pick U of H over SMU if you want to live in Texas.

Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
62393 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:53 pm to
I am an attorney. I would recommend thinking long and hard about going. If you're doing it because you're generally a smart person, but don't really know what to do professionally, I would say don't go. That's not a reason.

With respect to your scholarships, nice going. Take a look at specifics however. What class ranking or gpa do you have to maintain to keep them, if at all? I saw a lot of people get burned that way. A lot of schools are generous with money year 1, because they know that "x" percent will not keep that money in years 2 and 3.
Posted by Spaulding Smails
Milano’s Bar
Member since Jun 2012
18805 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:53 pm to
I think a lot of people in various professions will tell you they wished they had done something else.
Posted by arseinclarse
Member since Apr 2007
35297 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:53 pm to
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You should have called me.


No thanks. I had fun. Still having fun.
Posted by jrhettb
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2004
200 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:53 pm to
Would agree that it depends on where you want to practice. Big firms in Texas pay way more than here in Louisiana. Nationally, SMU, Tulane and U of H probably about the same. Think both are ranked in the top 50 law schools nationally. Loyola student typically do pretty well getting jobs in the NOLA area as many are from here. LSU (where I went) prepares you well for Louisiana jobs in particular. If you want to go to Texas to work, I would not recommend LSU. I believe the top two in our class got hired at big firms there, but that was pretty much it.

10 years out now, so some things may have changed.

If you get a top job, student loans will work themselves out. If not, big noose to have around your neck for the next 30 years.
Posted by BrentED
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2007
2223 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:54 pm to
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In my experience, where you get your degree is not nearly as important as where you finish in your lawschool class.


This is also pretty accurate.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
11584 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:54 pm to
Full scholarships are better than partials. Loyola is not as good a law school, but if its free that is where I would go (and I am a Tulane Law School grad). Overall, I wouldn't go again.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
45124 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:55 pm to
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With respect to your scholarships, nice going. Take a look at specifics however. What class ranking or gpa do you have to maintain to keep them, if at all? I saw a lot of people get burned that way. A lot of schools are generous with money year 1, because they know that "x" percent will not keep that money in years 2 and 3.


This. And remember grades are by and large a gigantic crap shoot depending on your section and professors. You can't bank on finishing top 15-20%.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84354 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:55 pm to
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ask someone else other than the OT. they'll just say don't go



Here are the OP's likely options once he graduates law school:

1. Ranked in top 20-25% of his class, gets a gig at one of the major law firms working ridiculous hours per week, but pay is great.

2. Work for a small law firm where you're smarter than your boss. Pay is decent and you can advance or start your own firm down the road.

3. Work for the state government; get paid in peanuts.

4. Find non-legal work (usually the best option).


Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:56 pm to
quote:

I am an attorney. I would recommend thinking long and hard about going. If you're doing it because you're generally a smart person, but don't really know what to do professionally, I would say don't go. That's not a reason.

With respect to your scholarships, nice going. Take a look at specifics however. What class ranking or gpa do you have to maintain to keep them, if at all? I saw a lot of people get burned that way. A lot of schools are generous with money year 1, because they know that "x" percent will not keep that money in years 2 and 3.
This is all great advice. Not as great as not going to law school though.

Also, go to the cheapest, top tier school in the area you want to practice. If you are unsure where you want to practice or it is important to have regional/national value with your degree, go to the highest ranked school you can.
Posted by TheOcean
#honeyfriedchicken
Member since Aug 2004
45124 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:56 pm to
5. Work for the fed govt, make decent money, and punch in 40hrs a week.
Posted by SabiDojo
Open to any suggestions.
Member since Nov 2010
84354 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:57 pm to
Also true.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54836 posts
Posted on 1/22/14 at 4:57 pm to
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I think a lot of people in various professions will tell you they wished they had done something else.

I think you will have a much higher percentage with lawyers than almost any other common profession.
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